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Old 08-07-2007, 09:59 AM
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I want them to succeed because i'm fed up with Coolmore storming clear each and every year. The fact is that Coolmore run a business, they know all the horses they train. They don't go mad at the sales and they stick to a budget (something, which all businesses must do, no matter how much money they have disposable).
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:16 AM
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Are you kidding me?!
Yeah, I didn't even bother responding when I saw that ridiculous statement.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:31 AM
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Coolmore have a budget, whether you choose to believe that is your problem. Their budget is HUGE, but it is there. Godolphin? well, they spend as much as they can, hoping for a return, which is a very risky game. When i say they don'y go mad, i mean in relation to Godolphin/Darley.

If you believe this article is hearsay or rumour, then you are very much mistaken.

As i say, you don't live here, you don't know the ins and outs. Yet you are all telling me that i'm mistaken?

Godolphin are a laughing stock over here, a complete laughing stock to anyone involved in racing.

It's just that their media friendly position seems to appeal to many for reasons unknown to me.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:43 AM
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Coolmore have a budget, whether you choose to believe that is your problem. Their budget is HUGE, but it is there. Godolphin? well, they spend as much as they can, hoping for a return, which is a very risky game. When i say they don'y go mad, i mean in relation to Godolphin/Darley.

If you believe this article is hearsay or rumour, then you are very much mistaken.

As i say, you don't live here, you don't know the ins and outs. Yet you are all telling me that i'm mistaken?

Godolphin are a laughing stock over here, a complete laughing stock to anyone involved in racing.

It's just that their media friendly position seems to appeal to many for reasons unknown to me.
I don't have the time to pour through the auction results right now but when you're willing to go to 16 Million for a donkey who can't even make the track you are NOT keeping a budget. You've probably got a lot more time on your hands than I...check out the yearling & HIT results within the past few years and tell me how well that tight budget has helped Coolmore in their auction purchases.
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I don't have the time to pour through the auction results right now but when you're willing to go to 16 Million for a donkey who can't even make the track you are NOT keeping a budget. You've probably got a lot more time on your hands than I...check out the yearling & HIT results within the past few years and tell me how well that tight budget has helped Coolmore in their auction purchases.
Did i ever mention it was a tight budget? No?

Lets just say they are more careful with their money than the Godolphin crew, by far.

Both are bad for spending the amounts of money they do, but Godolphin do it much more often than Coomore do.

I'm not talking about yearlings by the way, this topic was never about yearlings! It was the stupid amounts that they pay for the older horses already in training and been on the track.

Ever see Coolmore do that? No, didn't think so.
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Did i ever mention it was a tight budget? No?

Lets just say they are more careful with their money than the Godolphin crew, by far.

Both are bad for spending the amounts of money they do, but Godolphin do it much more often than Coomore do.

I'm not talking about yearlings by the way, this topic was never about yearlings! It was the stupid amounts that they pay for the older horses already in training and been on the track.

Ever see Coolmore do that? No, didn't think so.
Whether it's yearlings or older horses in training, it's their money and it helps the little guy they are buying from. What's the problem with that?!
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:09 AM
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Whether it's yearlings or older horses in training, it's their money and it helps the little guy they are buying from. What's the problem with that?!
That is the problem, it's helping the sellers, but not helping racing at all. Most of these owners they are buying from don't bother re investing it into racing as they cannot keep up with the dominance and they know as soon as they get a half decent horse, a bid which they cannot refuse will come in for Godolphin.

I wouldn't mind, but they buy these horses and then ruin them, that is what annoys me the most. I want to see these good horses, but as soon as they go to Godolphin, the chance of seeing them do any good again is almost nill.

I was speaking to someone from a top yard the other day, an one of their star fillies looks like she will going to Godolphin at the end of the season, he just said "well, that's another to hit the dust", same happened with another horse he used to look after named Vista Bella. It's heartbraking for these people.

In my opinion, they are ruining racing in the UK.
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