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Old 08-05-2007, 07:00 PM
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Nice win for AGS. Very impressive, but to keep things in perspective of the big picture, the BC, Classic, his 1 1/8 time was almost 2 seconds slower than Lawyer Ron's freakish effort in the Whitney
Forget for a second these races were run a week apart, they weren't even run in the same state. The final times are completely meaningless for comparison.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:06 PM
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very, very contentious group of three year olds...as for the race, i was busy here at home, and completely forgot about it! have to watch a replay later....

street sense tho remains the top of the heap, due to his derby win, and then his return in the dandy. and of course he did beat AGS earlier in the year.
heck of a group for sure!
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:09 PM
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It's asinine to compare the time of this race to the Whitney.

AGS is getting better and better and Pletcher would be crazy not to run in the Travers. I still like Street Sense, but AGS has looked very good. Surprisingly dull for Curlin. Should be an interesting next 3 weeks.
hard to say....don't forget the whole dealy-deal with bluegrass cat last year....i know pletcher won't. he may skip the travers, and run him against older in the jcgc.

right on tho about comparing times.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:54 PM
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I bet on Any Given Saturday myself. 200 to win which is a pretty sizable bet for me. How did everybody know this horse was going to win?? The worst kept secret ever. The Dwyer was impressive, I saw that race and saw his , I also bet on him in the Tampa Bay Derby.

For a horse with no heart which was repeated a lot on here this spring his last 2 races have been very impressive. The acceleration was awesome, plus he's now learning to rate, sitting at the rail and waiting and they just galloped. If he goes in the Travers he should get first run on SS, or SS will have to lay closer to the pace. Hope they skip the Travers. But if they beat him on the nuts there. He moves to the top of the list. Wonder if Curlin changes his mind now and goes to the Travers, he did not have the greatest of trips and if you watch the replay he wasn't pushed late. Curlin needs to beat these guys if he wan'ts 3 YO title. But I think AGS and SS are the real 2 best of this group. Although Curlins odds will go up and this race was sneaky good.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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He bullied Curlin around the turn and it was lights out after that. 20 days rest is plenty considering how this one has developed. As a horse racing fan, I am fed up with the duck and dodge/we need rest mentality.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:37 PM
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He bullied Curlin around the turn and it was lights out after that. 20 days rest is plenty considering how this one has developed. As a horse racing fan, I am fed up with the duck and dodge/we need rest mentality.
tired of it, and changing it are two different things. that's the shame of it.

saying that he might skip the travers would not be MY way of thinking...just throwing it out there that it may well be pletchers. he likes those long layoffs.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:45 PM
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I'm not sure if anybody remembers seeing the quote. I think it was in the Racing Form may have been in one of Steve Haskins Columns. Pletcher said when asked about Circular Quay's long layoff, that he would have rested Any Given Saturday from the Tampa Bay Derby all the Way to the Derby if he had the earnings. So it is conceivable that he may give him only one more race before the Breeders Cup.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:16 PM
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Great thread.

I love the battle of Images.

Good for you guys who cleaned up.

Hope you bet him Seattle.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:22 PM
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Could the Woodward be a possibility for AGS? Woodward is Sept 1st then the JCGC on Sept 29th and then the BCC on Oct 27th. That is about 4 weeks between each start. If he could beat older horses in one of those races and then perform well in the BCC then he could be 3 year old the year.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:54 AM
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He bullied Curlin around the turn and it was lights out after that. 20 days rest is plenty considering how this one has developed. As a horse racing fan, I am fed up with the duck and dodge/we need rest mentality.
I am with you PP. The Dandy used to be run 13 days before the Travers. Then the meet went to 5 weeks and it became 20 days. Then the meet went to 6 weeks and the Dandy remained 20 days before the Travers, until recently when it went to 27 days. Blame it all on the Breeders Cup for the duck and dodge approach.
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