obama-invade pakistan

[horseofcourse]

That's just playing pin the tail on the donkey picking countries to invade like our current president has. Ridiculous concept.

if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet.

[hi_im_god]

"if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet."

cosign.

we've had a very hard time with our wars on nouns. did we defeat drugs yet? has poverty surrendered?

i hope we never try to take on a verb. i hear action words are tougher.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

"if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet."

cosign.

we've have a very hard time with our wars on nouns. did we defeat drugs yet? has poverty surrendered?

i hope we never try to take on a verb. i hear action words are tougher.

just imagine if they start adding adverbs....

it's like the election season, i'll fight for you, we're on the attack, etc. everything is a battle.

like i heard the other day, we're trying to use our military for a job that belongs to the police. they aren't interchangeable, much as we'd like to hammer things into submission.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Do you mean one of the worst slogans, or do you think that combatting terrorism is a bad idea?

As a slogan, I can live with it, though an intellectually honest slogan is, "War against Radical Islamists." PC won out with "War on Terror" unfortunately.

I agree

I really feel Obama's intentions in this matter were twofold:

1. Separation and bashing of the Clinton's (they will become great friends AFTER the Democratic primary)

2. Show that he is no water lilly when it comes to using US force.

I seriously doubt he would ever attempt the most drastic of measures mentioned in the article after consultations with the military and diplomats. The man is not stupid. I think he will reword his statements into something like giving the US leeway into making surgical strikes into Afghanistan to disrupt terrorist camps, etc... after consultations with the various Afghan political groups

I also think people are looking for a reason to trash him and he gave them one. I think the Republicans fear his candidacy more than Hillary so they jump at a misstep. It also gives the other Democratic candidates some breathing room if they jump on this.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I really feel Obama's intentions in this matter were twofold:

1. Separation and bashing of the Clinton's (they will become great friends AFTER the Democratic primary)

2. Show that he is no water lilly when it comes to using US force.

I seriously doubt he would ever attempt the most drastic of measures mentioned in the article after consultations with the military and diplomats. The man is not stupid. I think he will reword his statements into something like giving the US leeway into making surgical strikes into Afghanistan to disrupt terrorist camps, etc... after consultations with the various Afghan political groups

I also think people are looking for a reason to trash him and he gave them one. I think the Republicans fear his candidacy more than Hillary so they jump at a misstep. It also gives the other Democratic candidates some breathing room if they jump on this.

I highly doubt this. Hillary would/will be much tougher. the republicans would easily have a field day with Obama. the more he talks the more mistakes he will make and the more his inexperience will show through. yeah he wanted to look somewhat hawkish, to separate himself from the other dems. instead what it sounds like he is saying is "we should not be fighting the war in Iraq, if I were president we'd fight the war in Pakistan", this kind of saber rattling is not going to appeal to either side of the debate.

they also have him in Florida because all they have to do is run his statement that as soon as he is elected he wants to sit down with castro.

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I highly doubt this. Hillary would/will be much tougher. the republicans would easily have a field day with Obama. the more he talks the more mistakes he will make and the more his inexperience will show through. yeah he wanted to look somewhat hawkish, to separate himself from the other dems. instead what it sounds like he is saying is "we should not be fighting the war in Iraq, if I were president we'd fight the war in Pakistan", this kind of saber rattling is not going to appeal to either side of the debate.

they also have him in Florida because all they have to do is run his statement that as soon as he is elected he wants to sit down with castro.

Your points are well taken. I just believe the hatred of the Clinton's runs very, very deep.
Of course at this point the Republicans appear to be very weak. That will change.

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Hillary would/will be much tougher.

Ok Jim then who is it? Now you are saying Hillary has too many negatives. Edwards? Its not obama and you appear to now be saying its not Hillary. So you got a rep. winning no matter what?

Or what?

I know its early but we are discussing this.

[timmgirvan]

I believe the Dems will self-destruct at the Convention!

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I believe the Dems will self-destruct at the Convention!

would not be the first time...

Hillary and Obama are not talking.
They speak thru aides. Not hearing aides.
Rather childish.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I really feel Obama's intentions in this matter were twofold:

1. Separation and bashing of the Clinton's (they will become great friends AFTER the Democratic primary)

2. Show that he is no water lilly when it comes to using US force.

I seriously doubt he would ever attempt the most drastic of measures mentioned in the article after consultations with the military and diplomats. The man is not stupid. I think he will reword his statements into something like giving the US leeway into making surgical strikes into Afghanistan to disrupt terrorist camps, etc... after consultations with the various Afghan political groups

I also think people are looking for a reason to trash him and he gave them one. I think the Republicans fear his candidacy more than Hillary so they jump at a misstep. It also gives the other Democratic candidates some breathing room if they jump on this.

i don't think the repubs feared him much--i think clinton did, especially after those fund-raising #'s came out, but i don't think anyone else really did. far less reason to worry about him now. he's showed himself to be a rookie, and that's the last thing we need to lead this country.

no need to find trash btw, this guy didn't need anyone to help him have mis-steps exposed. too young, too soon in his career--and after clinton was president, a lot of people said in hindsight, he was too young as well.

Well who do the Republicans fear? Or they fear none as they have no candidate yet?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well who do the Republicans fear? Or they fear none as they have no candidate yet?

who do they fear? probably petraus.

did you hear that congress has 3% approval rating?

hillary is still far ahead in polls--yet most feel she has no chance in a general election. so in a way, i guess the reps only need fear themselves and making missteps.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

who do they fear? probably petraus.

did you hear that congress has 3% approval rating?

hillary is still far ahead in polls--yet most feel she has no chance in a general election. so in a way, i guess the reps only need fear themselves and making missteps.

I think that notion is changing slowly, on both sides. Some on the right are starting to realize that they can't count on Hillary-Hate as a way to get the Oval Office, and those on the left who don't think she's liberal enough for their tastes are seeing a shift.

Give it some time. We hear so much about her high negatives, yet she's still polling ahead of any named Republican, and she polls higher than a generic "Republican Candidate."

I think a year ago people thought she'd have no chance in the general -- I think it's a big mistake for anyone to assume she has little chance in the general election any longer...she's debating her way into the White House...and just wait until she gets against whichever bumbling fool the Repubs nominate. Guarantee you she will school that person in every debate.