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Old 07-12-2006, 11:20 PM
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Oh and as far as listening to JJ , I dont have to listen to him, I listened to him 20 years ago , Im sure he sounds the same and brings the same boring commentary to whatever show he is on. He brings nothing original to the table thats for sure. Just keep on attacking me tho its fun. Again see Ive formed Opinions I state why I dont like it or something, Then I comment on it . That is conversation pro and con not all happy happy joy joy. Im sure Mr Graci (jj) does fine things for racing and the show . Just not in MY OPINION is it worth 2-4 hours of my time to it. or 1 minute of a 4 hour show to find what exactly he said . It was stated what he said in this thread and thats what I commented on.
Tao-How can you comment on something that you never listened to? We all know how quotes can be taken out of the framework of a conversation and be taken out of context. That is why you have to listen to the whole conversation before rendering an opinion. Let me ask you. Are you the same track announcer that you were 15-20 years ago? I'm sure you learned a few things along the way. If you were to be critiqued,wouldn't you want to be judged on your present body of work? It's kind of ridiculus to rip JJ from something he did 15-20 years ago. Why not listen to the current show and then formulate an opinion. We are no longer in the 80's. You'll sound more credible if you do that. It's easy to fire away on a message board claiming to be someone influencial in the industry but not reveal who you are. You'll probably say somebody close to you told you that he's still the same guy but that's just secondhand knowledge which doesn't pass the smell test. I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just pointing out that I'd rather listen to an opinion somebody had based on 2006 rather than the late 80's.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:47 PM
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have kept you in my prayers since day one. and am tonight more then ever that tomorrows news is not tragic.people this board is for debate and info and all but all these attacks at each other will be a mute point if something has or will happen to barb. we will all feel empty inside if something happens. we all care for him in the end no matter who said what and in what forum they say it in. its all a big loss for us. lets talk about him being the true champ he is and one of the greatest derby winners ever. if you ever want to talk about a race horse having heart and the will to win(survive) this guy has already proven to me he isjust as good as a tc champ by his actions in his fight for survival
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:55 PM
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I think we are in for some bad news tomorrow. You could easily announce what needs to be said in a press memo if it wasn't bad. You don't go through the trouble and cancel a trip to South Africa to hold a 10 minute conference about what you did last week. I hope I am wrong
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:56 PM
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Why the hell is Tao bringing up JJ Graci as a trainer? This thread is about Barbaro, correct? I see zero reason why JJ's training record - good, bad, or average - should be brought up out of the blue.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:59 PM
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i agree 1rst sat , god bless you barb
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:17 AM
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have kept you in my prayers since day one. and am tonight more then ever that tomorrows news is not tragic.people this board is for debate and info and all but all these attacks at each other will be a mute point if something has or will happen to barb. we will all feel empty inside if something happens. we all care for him in the end no matter who said what and in what forum they say it in. its all a big loss for us. lets talk about him being the true champ he is and one of the greatest derby winners ever. if you ever want to talk about a race horse having heart and the will to win(survive) this guy has already proven to me he isjust as good as a tc champ by his actions in his fight for survival
Sending love to Barbaro from over the pond...
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:13 AM
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have kept you in my prayers since day one. and am tonight more then ever that tomorrows news is not tragic.people this board is for debate and info and all but all these attacks at each other will be a mute point if something has or will happen to barb. we will all feel empty inside if something happens. we all care for him in the end no matter who said what and in what forum they say it in. its all a big loss for us. lets talk about him being the true champ he is and one of the greatest derby winners ever. if you ever want to talk about a race horse having heart and the will to win(survive) this guy has already proven to me he isjust as good as a tc champ by his actions in his fight for survival
Very well said pdrift, my thoughts exactly.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:02 AM
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From tim woollery site:

Update 216: Spoke to Michael Matz this morning (thursday). It appears Bobby is still doing OK given all we know. I asked Michael a little more about the press conference this morning. He won't be able to attend, but is aware that Dr. Dean Richardson will be very forthcoming with everything that is occuring (no surprise apparently if you know Dean). Michael also mentioned he received a very nice letter, which he gave to Peter (Brette) to give to me, that discussed this site. I'll look forward to reading it. (Peter could not give it to me since he was on a horse, Michael was on Messaging and I was on one of Tim's horses, whose "nickname" is also Bobby!) I am planning to attend the press conference.
update thursday, 7:15 am

Update 215: A new article from the Baltimore Sun, later in the day yesterday (10:34 pm): Derby winner Barbaro is 'facing tough odds' Infections impede horse's recovery. Much of the content we are familiar with I think. The Mercury News carries an article that mentions the purpose of today's press conference: Surgeon says Barbaro's 'facing tough odds' (which I plan to attend), excerpt:

Addressing a rumor that the news conference was to announce that Barbaro would be put down as soon as Thursday night, Gretchen Jackson said that was unfounded.

"No, I guarantee that's not going to happen unless something goes drastically wrong in the next 24 hours," she said in a phone interview Wednesday night.

The purpose of the news conference, she said, was for Richardson to give a detailed update on the events of the last week. "It just seems fitting that Dean does the whole thing now."
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:03 AM
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From tim woollery site:

Update 216: Spoke to Michael Matz this morning (thursday). It appears Bobby is still doing OK given all we know. I asked Michael a little more about the press conference this morning. He won't be able to attend, but is aware that Dr. Dean Richardson will be very forthcoming with everything that is occuring (no surprise apparently if you know Dean). Michael also mentioned he received a very nice letter, which he gave to Peter (Brette) to give to me, that discussed this site. I'll look forward to reading it. (Peter could not give it to me since he was on a horse, Michael was on Messaging and I was on one of Tim's horses, whose "nickname" is also Bobby!) I am planning to attend the press conference.
update thursday, 7:15 am

Update 215: A new article from the Baltimore Sun, later in the day yesterday (10:34 pm): Derby winner Barbaro is 'facing tough odds' Infections impede horse's recovery. Much of the content we are familiar with I think. The Mercury News carries an article that mentions the purpose of today's press conference: Surgeon says Barbaro's 'facing tough odds' (which I plan to attend), excerpt:

Addressing a rumor that the news conference was to announce that Barbaro would be put down as soon as Thursday night, Gretchen Jackson said that was unfounded.

"No, I guarantee that's not going to happen unless something goes drastically wrong in the next 24 hours," she said in a phone interview Wednesday night.

The purpose of the news conference, she said, was for Richardson to give a detailed update on the events of the last week. "It just seems fitting that Dean does the whole thing now."
these are great updates, thanks so much for sharing them.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:31 AM
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have kept you in my prayers since day one. and am tonight more then ever that tomorrows news is not tragic.people this board is for debate and info and all but all these attacks at each other will be a mute point if something has or will happen to barb. we will all feel empty inside if something happens. we all care for him in the end no matter who said what and in what forum they say it in. its all a big loss for us. lets talk about him being the true champ he is and one of the greatest derby winners ever. if you ever want to talk about a race horse having heart and the will to win(survive) this guy has already proven to me he isjust as good as a tc champ by his actions in his fight for survival
AMEN. well said.
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