Arkansas Derby Grade???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Lets go one step further then.

Why do the even grade races in the first place? Apparently the breeders crow about it a great deal.

Unless you are a breeder why do you care about what breeders crow about?

[whodey17]

The only purpose of graded races is for the Breeders. Who cares if the Arkansas Derby is a Grade I or II or III. I personally think there should be only 4 Grade I races for each age and for each surface and for varied distances. I would do away with Grade II's and Grade III's.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by whodey17

The only purpose of graded races is for the Breeders. Who cares if the Arkansas Derby is a Grade I or II or III. I personally think there should be only 4 Grade I races for each age and for each surface and for varied distances. I would do away with Grade II's and Grade III's.

seems to matter to many.

it's not that the ark derby should be a 1, but i think it should be on level with the other big preps. if it's a 2, they should be as well.

really tho, since there are too many, it's diluted anyway. if they're all special, than really none of them are. is it a self-esteem thing??

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Danzig

seems to matter to many.

it's not that the ark derby should be a 1, but i think it should be on level with the other big preps. if it's a 2, they should be as well.

really tho, since there are too many, it's diluted anyway. if they're all special, than really none of them are. is it a self-esteem thing??

I could care less who won a Grade I or II or III. I think most people could care less (just my opinion). But I agree that it is diluted.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Unless you are a breeder why do you care about what breeders crow about?

Ya gotta answer my first question first. Why are races graded? Just for breeders?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ya gotta answer my first question first. Why are races graded? Just for breeders?

That was the original intent.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That was the original intent.

I care because a grade I count more points in The Road To The Roses Contest which I fail miserably at every year. So maybe making the Arkansas Derby a grade I will shake things up a bit.

So could you talk to somebody and explain my dire situation...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I care because a grade I count more points in The Road To The Roses Contest which I fail miserably at every year. So maybe making the Arkansas Derby a grade I will shake things up a bit.

So could you talk to somebody and explain my dire situation...

The way the graded stakes committee works we should lobby them to drop it a grade and it's a sure Grade 1 next year

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The way the graded stakes committee works we should lobby them to drop it a grade and it's a sure Grade 1 next year

I'll take that to mean we are not in tight with the powers that be.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I'll take that to mean we are not in tight with the powers that be.

We are in tight enough but they have some obsure system that they use. Common sense is not part of the formula