Good Luck "Team DT"

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

this is all in good ribbing, but I am sure she lost to another stake horse today

you had her as a complete bounce candidate, the fact is she was the best horse in this field. The 6 got a dream trip and still had trouble passing her. Clearly the 6 is not a stakes horse, but was not the best horse in the race either.

I don't have a problem with Willy's ride and I am impressed that she was able to take off the lead and still make another run in the stretch. It's too bad that the Pletcher horse went as early as she did, to me that clearly forced Willy to go early, if the 8 doesn't move to the end of the turn she wins, she may even have held on if she changed her leads on time. Hopefully that will be corrected.

Plus, she probably needed a race in her. Congrats fellow DTers, we have a very nice filly that will probably run even better next time out with this race in her. Plus, she is clearly capable of running on two surfaces. I, for one, think she ran a hell of race again today and proved one more time that she is a game filly. The wins will come.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by pointman

you had her as a complete bounce candidate, the fact is she was the best horse in this field. The 6 got a dream trip and still had trouble passing her. Clearly the 6 is not a stakes horse, but was not the best horse in the race either.

I don't have a problem with Willy's ride and I am impressed that she was able to take off the lead and still make another run in the stretch. It's too bad that the Pletcher horse went as early as she did, to me that clearly forced Willy to go early, if the 8 doesn't move to the end of the turn she wins, she may even have held on if she changed her leads on time. Hopefully that will be corrected.

Plus, she probably needed a race in her. Congrats fellow DTers, we have a very nice filly that will probably run even better next time out with this race in her. Plus, she is clearly capable of running on two surfaces. I, for one, think she ran a hell of race again today and proved one more time that she is a game filly. The wins will come.

bounce, I dont believe in that vodoo garbage, though after running three consecutive increasing figures its unlikely to run a forth, just using stats not this thorograph crapola. I dont think she increased her beyer today, well see.

look, she ran great, outran her odds for sure

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

bounce, I dont believe in that vodoo garbage, though after running three consecutive increasing figures its unlikely to run a forth, just using stats not this thorograph crapola. I dont think she increased her beyer today, well see.

look, she ran great, outran her odds for sure

Much like on turf, speed figures tend to run lower on the Beyer scale on polytrack (and cushion) than they do on dirt.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Much like on turf, speed figures tend to run lower on the Beyer scale on polytrack (and cushion) than they do on dirt.

you know I know that..Beyers are the universal language, kind of like spanish in arizona

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

bounce, I dont believe in that vodoo garbage, though after running three consecutive increasing figures its unlikely to run a forth, just using stats not this thorograph crapola. I dont think she increased her beyer today, well see.

look, she ran great, outran her odds for sure

You yourself said she shouldn't have been less than 6/1, so shouldn't you be impressed that the horse you thought had a maximum 14% chance of winning ran second by a neck?

Of course not, because it's pretty clear that you have some weird vendetta against the stable. My hunch is that had she won you would've been railing about how she got a clear lead or how she was "supposed to win" or some bullshit like that.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You yourself said she shouldn't have been less than 6/1, so shouldn't you be impressed that the horse you thought had a maximum 14% chance of winning ran second by a neck?

Of course not, because it's pretty clear that you have some weird vendetta against the stable. My hunch is that had she won you would've been railing about how she got a clear lead or how she was "supposed to win" or some bullshit like that.

i have to say earlier i almost looked for a picture of vultures circling to put on here--because i really do think a few (very few hopefully) wait for things like this so they can come on and attack, and i guess lord it over us poor hopeful sods (don't we know we're in over our heads?!) who haven't a clue what to do with/about this horse. and for crying out loud, money was bet on her? the shame of it all.

it's funny tho really. we went into this deal with eyes wide open, with a small bankroll and really just some hope to have a bit of fun. certainly no one expected to have a horse of this calibre. those who knock her can say hey, she keeps coming in second. but she's doing something that only a small percentage of racehorses manage--running and winning money in a race that isn't a claiming race. i mean, did anyone who bought into this expect to have her show up at churchill, arlington, and probably ship into the spa? my guess would be NO. but some enjoy pointing out the bad, rather than look for the good. that's their loss.

by no means am i singling out anyone in this thread or elsewhere today. past experience after sumwons races has been far worse, and temperature raising, than anything i've seen lately.

of course, the day isn't over yet.

[The Bid]

I doubt anyone wishes sumone or anyone in the partnership ill will. We would all love to see her run and win. Its very exciting seeing people enjoy their ownership experience. Its a very rare occasion you get a filly like her for the amount of money they paid

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I doubt anyone wishes sumone or anyone in the partnership ill will. We would all love to see her run and win. Its very exciting seeing people enjoy their ownership experience. Its a very rare occasion you get a filly like her for the amount of money they paid

no, i don't think it's wishing ill will. i think it's just a gloating type thing, or like those who hope that someones posted bet loses, so they can rub it in a little. neener neener, you were wrong type stuff.

[The Bid]

I havent seen that either. Anyone whos part of this forum wish all the partners the best

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You yourself said she shouldn't have been less than 6/1, so shouldn't you be impressed that the horse you thought had a maximum 14% chance of winning ran second by a neck?

Of course not, because it's pretty clear that you have some weird vendetta against the stable. My hunch is that had she won you would've been railing about how she got a clear lead or how she was "supposed to win" or some bullshit like that.

I said she ran well, what more should I say, she should be in the alabama....

look I didnt make her 7/5, so she ran better then I thought, maybe not to the publics estimation though of just short of odds on.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You yourself said she shouldn't have been less than 6/1, so shouldn't you be impressed that the horse you thought had a maximum 14% chance of winning ran second by a neck?

Of course not, because it's pretty clear that you have some weird vendetta against the stable. My hunch is that had she won you would've been railing about how she got a clear lead or how she was "supposed to win" or some bullshit like that.

that much is clearly obvious to everyone, and it is so tiresome now.

[ArlJim78]

just got back home from spending the afternoon out at AP, meeting lots of new people, watching Sumwons race, so close again.

I just have to say that you guys have latched on to such a nice one here, you all should be real proud even though she has so far only placed for you. She is real game and as you all know ran again today what could have easily been a winning race.

I have to mention something Wille said after the race that made my day.
He said in the jocks room before the race that Douglas told him "you don't have to worry about my horse". So Willie shoots back "I wasn't worried about your horse". That was the Pletcher horse, the 8, which Sumwon left in the dust. Willie seems like a great guy who really wanted to win for the partners today and seems to be having a blast with it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

just got back home from spending the afternoon out at AP, meeting lots of new people, watching Sumwons race, so close again.

I just have to say that you guys have latched on to such a nice one here, you all should be real proud even though she has so far only placed for you. She is real game and as you all know ran again today what could have easily been a winning race.

I have to mention something Wille said after the race that made my day.
He said in the jocks room before the race that Douglas told him "you don't have to worry about my horse". So Willie shoots back "I wasn't worried about your horse". That was the Pletcher horse, the 8, which Sumwon left in the dust. Willie seems like a great guy who really wanted to win for the partners today and seems to be having a blast with it.

was glad to meet willie at churchill, seems a nice guy--altho tony thought by seeing one of those pics that maybe he was being 'too nice'--lol...nah, not really!

that is a funny story about him and douglas tho. glad to hear you guys had a great time, and you better believe i'm proud as hell of how she's turned out.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

bounce, I dont believe in that vodoo garbage, though after running three consecutive increasing figures its unlikely to run a forth, just using stats not this thorograph crapola. I dont think she increased her beyer today, well see.

look, she ran great, outran her odds for sure

10 pnt, I respect your opinion and believe you have every right to state it. However, all I am saying is that those of us that are part of this partnership have every right to be excited about this horse. She has improved leaps and bounds since getting into Chuck's hands and there is still room for more improvement. I doubt she increased her Beyer today, but given that she lost training a few weeks ago, was coming off a layoff, and considering the trip she got, she ran a terrific race.

As far as the sarcasm of outrunning her odds, she had no business opening up at 2-5. Regardless, I believe that there is better ahead for her and if she can learn to relax more and change her leads correctly, there is certainly much better in her future.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

10 pnt, I respect your opinion and believe you have every right to state it. However, all I am saying is that those of us that are part of this partnership have every right to be excited about this horse. She has improved leaps and bounds since getting into Chuck's hands and there is still room for more improvement. I doubt she increased her Beyer today, but given that she lost training a few weeks ago, was coming off a layoff, and considering the trip she got, she ran a terrific race.

As far as the sarcasm of outrunning her odds, she had no business opening up at 2-5. Regardless, I believe that there is better ahead for her and if she can learn to relax more and change her leads correctly, there is certainly much better in her future.

still plenty of upside in this horse. i'm thrilled. i don't know of anyone who has bought in who isn't thrilled.


thanks (again) to steve, chuck et al. your hard work is much appreciated. thanks most of all to the filly, who is providing thrills a minute!

[Sightseek]

While it's no guarentee she enters the gate at the spa, I do think it's a guarantee she'll have a bigger entourage than Sheik Rashid did at last year's Travers Stakes.

I hope the other partners loved on her lots for all of us who couldn't be there today. As always Chuck, we appreciate all you do in the continued success of Dee-Tee Stables.

Now if you excuse me, I have a nasty letter to write to United Airlines.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

While it's no guarentee she enters the gate at the spa, I do think it's a guarantee she'll have a bigger entourage than Sheik Rashid did at last year's Travers Stakes.

I hope the other partners loved on her lots for all of us who couldn't be there today. As always Chuck, we appreciate all you do in the continued success of Dee-Tee Stables.

Now if you excuse me, I have a nasty letter to write to United Airlines.

give em hell sightseek!!

[stevepopyak]

Congrats everyone .... spoke to Byk briefly after the race and it sounds as though she came out of the race fine.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig

give em hell sightseek!!

I will! Out of curiosity we checked to see how they were doing on the return flight at 9pm and that too is already delayed...flying truly is for the birds!



I loved how happy Sumwon looked when running on the lead before those two longshots ran up to each side of her. She had her ears up and was just rolling along...you can tell she really loves it out there.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Now if you excuse me, I have a nasty letter to write to United Airlines.

Emily works for them.

Address it to her......and make it extra special mean.

Trust me, she deserves it.