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Old 07-06-2007, 02:10 PM
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even the tyrant charles the first had a lawyer.

hell, that just goes to show they're all in it together, doesn't it?

Noooo....I actually believe it exposes a level of hypocrisy.
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:04 PM
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Noooo....I actually believe it exposes a level of hypocrisy.
that's been exposed for ages, on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:31 PM
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Danzig...this is my favorite Bush bon mot.

When pardoning Scooter Libby, Bush stated, "I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive."

Let's take a trip down memory lane:
George W. Bush, during his six years as governor of Texas, presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. A couple of noteworthy opportunities were presented to GWB:

• Terry Washington, a mentally retarded man of thirty-three with the communication skills of a seven-year-old and a nincompoop for a lawyer. Terry was a very bad guy and society deserved to be protected from him...but kill him??? C'mon
• Karla Faye Tucker, my all-time favorite. She became a household name while awaiting execution because of the sincerity of her religious conversion. People all over the world, from the Pope, to Bianca Jagger, Pat Robertson and even Jerry Falwell pleaded with Bush to grant her clemency. Journalist Tucker Carlson caught Bush, in an unguarded moment, ridiculing Karla Faye when she appeared on Larry King Live. "Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."

Sorry for the long winded essay, but I firmly believe that everyone needs to know these things. I don't want Bush to be excused by anyone who thinks all politicians are just as bad. They're not. Bush-Cheney invented a new level of evil.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:45 PM
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some people support the death penalty, and some don't. i've said before that except in extreme cases, i do not--so you certainly won't get me defending bush in that regard.

but to say that he and his vp have ratcheted things up to a new level of evil--well, i disagree.

both sides engage in behavior that most of us would not, and both sides criticize the other for those same behaviors. for any accusation against one party, or member, no doubt similar happenings could be found for the other.

i know members of each party like to point at members of the other for their bad behavior, and then excuse like behavior when it's one of 'their own'. i think that is also a shame. both sides love to talk ethics--as long as it's 'the other side' who is being investigated.

it would be lovely if both parties would come to understand that they are all supposed to be on 'our side'!!!
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Danzig...this is my favorite Bush bon mot.

When pardoning Scooter Libby, Bush stated, "I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive."
Let's take a trip down memory lane:
George W. Bush, during his six years as governor of Texas, presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. A couple of noteworthy opportunities were presented to GWB:

• Terry Washington, a mentally retarded man of thirty-three with the communication skills of a seven-year-old and a nincompoop for a lawyer. Terry was a very bad guy and society deserved to be protected from him...but kill him??? C'mon
• Karla Faye Tucker, my all-time favorite. She became a household name while awaiting execution because of the sincerity of her religious conversion. People all over the world, from the Pope, to Bianca Jagger, Pat Robertson and even Jerry Falwell pleaded with Bush to grant her clemency. Journalist Tucker Carlson caught Bush, in an unguarded moment, ridiculing Karla Faye when she appeared on Larry King Live. "Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."

Sorry for the long winded essay, but I firmly believe that everyone needs to know these things. I don't want Bush to be excused by anyone who thinks all politicians are just as bad. They're not. Bush-Cheney invented a new level of evil.
also, for the record, bush has not pardoned libby, he commuted the prison portion of his sentence--which is his right to do so as president, much like a pardon would be--as was clintons right to do so before he left office, and he did just that.
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