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Old 07-01-2007, 10:30 PM
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Bens was straight and true Castanon coulda switched whip hands.
Yes ,the 1 smacked the 3 right in the nose easy DQ

the reason the didn't take the 1 down and did take Chuck's horse down was the odds. they are sonstantly trying to appease the chalk player. they think that by making Mr Moto happy he will keep coming to the track. All the people I know and respect are more interested in justice. Consistant and fair.

I will never forget the time CD took down my 60-1 shot simply because Pat Day was surprised that he was passed. They showed replay after replay of my horse doing nothing wrong and then took him down.
If you saying that odds has anything to do with DQ's, your smoking some serious stuff.....

This argument is all about perception. You percieve this to be true, that favorites get treatment, when they don't.

While I hate agreeing with the all knowing Todd Schrup, things have improved every since that bad two months of DQ's. Recently, all have been warranted.

As far as this takedown, I didn't see it, but I was talking with the owner and his words were that it wasn't BS, just disappointing.....
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:34 PM
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I am guessing that the head-on is what is telling, because I just watched the Pan view and while he is lugging in, it was gradual and I don't see it....
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:41 PM
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I am guessing that the head-on is what is telling, because I just watched the Pan view and while he is lugging in, it was gradual and I don't see it....
I was giving a lot of the benefit of the doubt to the stewards. When Canon told me that they told him that Ben moved in 2 lanes, then all bets ( literally) were off because that did not happen
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:49 PM
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I was giving a lot of the benefit of the doubt to the stewards. When Canon told me that they told him that Ben moved in 2 lanes, then all bets ( literally) were off because that did not happen

htye told him two-lanes ? really wow. I guess they were refering to the lines in the dirt
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:55 PM
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htye told him two-lanes ? really wow. I guess they were refering to the lines in the dirt
I was so friggin' happy that I had already started buying rounds of beers before I knew there was an inquiry..which I guess started as an objection..which I guess didn't even involve Ben originally
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:51 PM
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I was giving a lot of the benefit of the doubt to the stewards. When Canon told me that they told him that Ben moved in 2 lanes, then all bets ( literally) were off because that did not happen
So does that mean we are driving to Louisville and finding us some stewards?
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:58 PM
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So does that mean we are driving to Louisville and finding us some stewards?

I told Dellinger that if that happened when SumWon runs at AP that you guys would storm the steward's room. Full riot gear
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:57 AM
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:59 AM
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I had just finished sharing my story with Bob about how that was the very first time I had been with a horse's owner when his or her horse won a race.

And then it came down. A load of crap, after watching it again last night.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:01 PM
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So does that mean we are driving to Louisville and finding us some stewards?
no but if one were to be crossing the street

I watched the head on the 20 times they showed it. No way did he move 2 lanes.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:08 PM
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no but if one were to be crossing the street

I watched the head on the 20 times they showed it. No way did he move 2 lanes.

I'll repost from a different thread...Thank you to all you guys at AP today who were in full spirit for Ben. I know it's "only" a 15K claimer at CD, but it was such a rush watching him down the stretch.
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Just watched this for first time...

While obviously supportive of Chuck, I have to say that this was about as egregious a steward outrage as you'll ever see. Disgusting. Sorry it went this way Chuck...
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:57 PM
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If you saying that odds has anything to do with DQ's, your smoking some serious stuff.....

This argument is all about perception. You percieve this to be true, that favorites get treatment, when they don't.

While I hate agreeing with the all knowing Todd Schrup, things have improved every since that bad two months of DQ's. Recently, all have been warranted.

As far as this takedown, I didn't see it, but I was talking with the owner and his words were that it wasn't BS, just disappointing.....
disappointing that they took action on something they haven't always
and the favorite absolutely did smack the other horse in the nose. It made the slight move by the winner seem dramatic.

Scavs I have had BIG longshots taken down simply for being BIG longshots. I don't have all the replays but I have it burned in my mind. I really like to know the reasons they do what they do. On more than one occasion I have had long shots get knocked off their pins and there has been nothing done but have a jockey pop up when they get unexpectedly passed by a long shot and boom.

It's a real shame they have no one to answer to.
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