Chris Benoit and family found dead

What's sad to me is that people still are paying to see these guys perform after all of the deaths and accusations of rampant abuse of steroids and the supposed encouragement by the people in charge.

What's sad is that wrestling will probably grow stronger from this tragedy. A huge, dysfunctional family bonding together in a time of crisis.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

What's sad to me is that people still are paying to see these guys perform after all of the deaths and accusations of rampant abuse of steroids and the supposed encouragement by the people in charge.

What's sad is that wrestling will probably grow stronger from this tragedy. A huge, dysfunctional family bonding together in a time of crisis.

The non-racing public doesn't have the rosiest views of horseracing either...

Originally Posted by Sightseek

The non-racing public doesn't have the rosiest views of horseracing either...

Did one of Asmussen's horsies kill a mare and her foal and then himself? If not, I fail to see your point.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Did one of Asmussen's horsies kill a mare and her foal and then himself? If not, I fail to see your point.

I was referring to your steroid comment and encouragement by people in charge.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Did one of Asmussen's horsies kill a mare and her foal and then himself? If not, I fail to see your point.

And it's not just professional wrestlers who kill their wives and children. I can understand you don't like wrestling...I feel the same about NASCAR, but I don't view the entire industry as classless.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

And it's not just professional wrestlers who kill their wives and children. I can understand you don't like wrestling...I feel the same about NASCAR, but I don't view the entire industry as classless.

Famous Wrestlers That Have Died Since 1985 Before the Age of 65
Chris Von Erich - 21
Mike Von Erich - 23
Louie Spiccoli - 27
Art Barr - 28
Gino Hernandez - 29
Jay Youngblood - 30
Rick McGraw - 30
Joey Marella - 30
Ed Gatner - 31
Buzz Sawyer - 32
Crash Holly - 32
Kerry Von Erich - 33
D.J. Peterson - 33
Eddie Gilbert - 33
The Renegade - 33
Owen Hart - 33
Chris Candido - 33
Adrian Adonis - 34
Gary Albright - 34
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34
Yokozuna - 34
Big Dick Dudley - 34
Brian Pillman - 35
Marianna Komlos - 35
Pitbull #2 - 36
The Wall/Malice - 36
Leroy Brown - 38
Mark Curtis - 38
Eddie Guerrero - 38
Davey Boy Smith - 39
Johnny Grunge - 39
Vivian Vachon - 40
Jeep Swenson - 40
Brady Boone - 40
Terry Gordy - 40
Bertha Faye - 40
Billy Joe Travis - 40
Chris Benoit - 40
Larry Cameron - 41
Rick Rude - 41
Randy Anderson - 41
Bruiser Brody - 42
Miss Elizabeth - 42
Big Boss Man - 42
Earthquake - 42
Mike Awesome - 42
Ray Candy - 43
Nancy Benoit (Woman) - 43
Dino Bravo - 44
Curt Hennig - 44
Bam Bam Bigelow - 45
Jerry Blackwell - 45
Junkyard Dog - 45
Hercules - 45
Andre the Giant - 46
Big John Studd - 46
Chris Adams - 46
Mike Davis - 46
Hawk - 46
Dick Murdoch - 49
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49
Rocco Rock - 49
Sherri Martel - 49
Moondog Spot - 51
Ken Timbs - 53
Uncle Elmer - 54
Pez Whatley - 54
Eddie Graham - 55
Tarzan Tyler - 55
Haystacks Calhoun- 55
Giant Haystacks - 55
The Spoiler - 56
Kurt Von Hess - 56
Moondog King - 56
Gene Anderson - 58
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58
Bulldog Brown - 58
Tony Parisi - 58
Rufus R. Jones - 60
Ray Stevens - 60
Stan Stasiak - 60
Terry Garvin - 60
Boris Malenko - 61
Little Beaver - 61
Sapphire - 61
Shohei Baba - 61
Dick the Bruiser - 62
Wilbur Snyder - 62
George Cannon - 62
Karl Krupp - 62
Dale Lewis - 62
Gorilla Monsoon - 62
Hiro Matsuda - 62
Bad News Brown - 63
Bulldog Brower - 63
Wahoo McDaniel - 63

[FlBred]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Famous Wrestlers That Have Died Since 1985 Before the Age of 65
Chris Von Erich - 21
Mike Von Erich - 23
Louie Spiccoli - 27
Art Barr - 28
Gino Hernandez - 29
Jay Youngblood - 30
Rick McGraw - 30
Joey Marella - 30
Ed Gatner - 31
Buzz Sawyer - 32
Crash Holly - 32
Kerry Von Erich - 33
D.J. Peterson - 33
Eddie Gilbert - 33
The Renegade - 33
Owen Hart - 33
Chris Candido - 33
Adrian Adonis - 34
Gary Albright - 34
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34
Yokozuna - 34
Big Dick Dudley - 34
Brian Pillman - 35
Marianna Komlos - 35
Pitbull #2 - 36
The Wall/Malice - 36
Leroy Brown - 38
Mark Curtis - 38
Eddie Guerrero - 38
Davey Boy Smith - 39
Johnny Grunge - 39
Vivian Vachon - 40
Jeep Swenson - 40
Brady Boone - 40
Terry Gordy - 40
Bertha Faye - 40
Billy Joe Travis - 40
Chris Benoit - 40
Larry Cameron - 41
Rick Rude - 41
Randy Anderson - 41
Bruiser Brody - 42
Miss Elizabeth - 42
Big Boss Man - 42
Earthquake - 42
Mike Awesome - 42
Ray Candy - 43
Nancy Benoit (Woman) - 43
Dino Bravo - 44
Curt Hennig - 44
Bam Bam Bigelow - 45
Jerry Blackwell - 45
Junkyard Dog - 45
Hercules - 45
Andre the Giant - 46
Big John Studd - 46
Chris Adams - 46
Mike Davis - 46
Hawk - 46
Dick Murdoch - 49
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49
Rocco Rock - 49
Sherri Martel - 49
Moondog Spot - 51
Ken Timbs - 53
Uncle Elmer - 54
Pez Whatley - 54
Eddie Graham - 55
Tarzan Tyler - 55
Haystacks Calhoun- 55
Giant Haystacks - 55
The Spoiler - 56
Kurt Von Hess - 56
Moondog King - 56
Gene Anderson - 58
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58
Bulldog Brown - 58
Tony Parisi - 58
Rufus R. Jones - 60
Ray Stevens - 60
Stan Stasiak - 60
Terry Garvin - 60
Boris Malenko - 61
Little Beaver - 61
Sapphire - 61
Shohei Baba - 61
Dick the Bruiser - 62
Wilbur Snyder - 62
George Cannon - 62
Karl Krupp - 62
Dale Lewis - 62
Gorilla Monsoon - 62
Hiro Matsuda - 62
Bad News Brown - 63
Bulldog Brower - 63
Wahoo McDaniel - 63

So this makes the fact that he took the life of his wife and child a non issue or no big deal?? what do all of these folks listed have to do with this situation, besides that they shared the same profession?

Originally Posted by FlBred

So this makes the fact that he took the life of his wife and child a non issue or no big deal?? what do all of these folks listed have to do with this situation, besides that they shared the same profession?

If he was mentally ill, like you claimed, then why didn't anyone in his profession notice? Why aren't there mental evaluations of these wrestlers in the WWE and WCW or whatever the **** abbreviation it's under? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at that list and see that something doesn't add up.

The fact is the WWE/WCW/NAMBLA doesn't give a fu.ck about anything but money. And taking measures to protect their entertainers is a waste of money to them because they can just go out and hire another meathead to hug another meathead for 5 minutes and charge thousands of meatheads $50 to watch it.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

The non-racing public doesn't have the rosiest views of horseracing either...

Agreed...

My sister feels that way in fact. She finds horseracing cruel.

[FlBred]

There is a HUGE oversight on the point here.......Its not whether he is a wrestler on roids, a CEO on cocaine or a ditch dgger who drinks a 12 pack a day......the fact of the matter is that an innnocent wife and son were taken by the one person in the world who is supposed to protect, love and care for them no matter what. There was obviously something extremely wrong and unfortunately innocent people got caught in the middle......Mental illness does not discriminate against occupation and nationality!!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by FlBred

There is a HUGE oversight on the point here.......Its not whether he is a wrestler on roids, a CEO on cocaine or a ditch dgger who drinks a 12 pack a day......the fact of the matter is that an innnocent wife and son were taken by the one person in the world who is supposed to protect, love and care for them no matter what. There was obviously something extremely wrong and unfortunately innocent people got caught in the middle......Mental illness does not discriminate against occupation and nationality!!

Thank you!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by FlBred

There is a HUGE oversight on the point here.......Its not whether he is a wrestler on roids, a CEO on cocaine or a ditch dgger who drinks a 12 pack a day......the fact of the matter is that an innnocent wife and son were taken by the one person in the world who is supposed to protect, love and care for them no matter what. There was obviously something extremely wrong and unfortunately innocent people got caught in the middle......Mental illness does not discriminate against occupation and nationality!!

I really don't know if he was mentally ill. All I heard what was just on the news, that he asphixiated (sp) his wife and son, then hanged himself in the basement. My guess is that he must have been very disturbed mentally to do this. I feel badly for his wife and son, and wish he had gotten help.
Seems that there are lots of stories lately about fathers killing their wives and children in the news. Tragic stuff!

[SentToStud]

[quote=FlBred]There is a HUGE oversight on the point here.......Its not whether he is a wrestler on roids, a CEO on cocaine or a ditch dgger who drinks a 12 pack a day......the fact of the matter is that an innnocent wife and son were taken by the one person in the world who is supposed to protect, love and care for them no matter what. There was obviously something extremely wrong and unfortunately innocent people got caught in the middle......Mental illness does not discriminate against occupation and nationality!![/QUOTE]

I would think mental illness most definitely does 'discriminate' against occupation.

[FlBred]

I would think mental illness most definitely does 'discriminate' against occupation.[/quote]


Last time I checked people of all walks of life suffer from mental illness.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by FlBred

QUOTE]


Last time I checked people of all walks of life suffer from mental illness.

Yes, of course. I would expect that some occupations correlate far higher than others to incidence of MI.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Yes, of course. I would expect that some occupations correlate far higher than others to incidence of MI.

Isn't that the truth..you should have heard the stories in the ethics seminair I had to sit through the other day!

[dellinger63]

Mental illness is too often used as an excuse. Could it be some humans are just plain evil?

[FlBred]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Mental illness is too often used as an excuse. Could it be some humans are just plain evil?

Agreed. But what explains the suddeness of it? If someone is evil in this manner wouldnt it have reared its head a along time ago?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by FlBred

Agreed. But what explains the suddeness of it? If someone is evil in this manner wouldnt it have reared its head a along time ago?

It certainly is scary when you see other stories like this of seemingly normal people who just 'snapped' one day.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by FlBred

Agreed. But what explains the suddeness of it? If someone is evil in this manner wouldnt it have reared its head a along time ago?

Did he all of a sudden become mentally ill? Fact is some need the excuse of mental illness so as not to cast judgement. We now all know he was Canadian so medical coverage obviously was not the problem.