Circular Quay

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i can't understand it either, especially when you consider that five of the past fourteen derby winners debuted in June and July. I remember that stat because I looked it up myself and posted it on the previous Circular Quay thread when he broke his maiden. This thread is almost a repeat of that one post for post. I guess some people just have no problem continuously regurgitating their insane statements.

If you mean "the best 2yr old in 10yrs" as a ridiculous statement you are correct. The "great" term is also ridiculous. I guess you don't need to be fast to be great any longer.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

If you mean "the best 2yr old in 10yrs" as a ridiculous statement you are correct. The "great" term is also ridiculous. I guess you don't need to be fast to be great any longer.

No, by ridiculous I meant this one, "TWO YEAR OLD RACING AT THIS TIME OF YEAR MEANS NOTHING." Try telling that to Sea Hero, Grindstone, Real Quiet, Charismatic, and Giacomo. They all started racing in June or July.

And why is it that all racing has to have TC implications or it means nothing. It's still horse racing and the races pay off just the same as the ones that the big guys are running in. Only a limited number of races involve those horses anyway.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No, by ridiculous I meant this one, "TWO YEAR OLD RACING AT THIS TIME OF YEAR MEANS NOTHING." Try telling that to Sea Hero, Grindstone, Real Quiet, Charismatic, and Giacomo. They all started racing in June or July.

And why is it that all racing has to have TC implications or it means nothing. It's still horse racing and the races pay off just the same as the ones that the big guys are running in. Only a limited number of races involve those horses anyway.

You need to take a class in logic. Who cares when any horse started racing? The point is that 2yr olds change overnight. These horses aren't even close to grown and what they do now is zero indication of what they will be like in a month from now, let alone a year from now. 2yr old horses can improve or regress in a matter of weeks. The fact is most 2yr olds are still unraced so to say that "as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him" is RIDICULOUS.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

You need to take a class in logic. Who cares when any horse started racing? The point is that 2yr olds change overnight. These horses aren't even close to grown and what they do now is zero indication of what they will be like in a month from now, let alone a year from now. 2yr old horses can improve or regress in a matter of weeks. The fact is most 2yr olds are still unraced so to say that "as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him" is RIDICULOUS.

You seem to care when a horse starts racing because of you oft repeated maxim "TWO YEAR OLD RACING AT THIS TIME OF YEAR MEANS NOTHING.".

I merely pointed out to you that the two year old races this time of year can have TC implications and I pointed out to you that even without TC implications these races mean something to the people racing the horses and to the bettors that enjoy the races. That they might change in a month or so, or a that a better one might come along, who cares? That's all part of the handicapping analysis.

I did not make the statement you keep quoting, so I'm not going to comment on it.

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

You need to take a class in logic. Who cares when any horse started racing? The point is that 2yr olds change overnight. These horses aren't even close to grown and what they do now is zero indication of what they will be like in a month from now, let alone a year from now. 2yr old horses can improve or regress in a matter of weeks. The fact is most 2yr olds are still unraced so to say that "as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him" is RIDICULOUS.

For the record Hoisttheflag is a complete moron.

Hoist I think you need counseling. This is a little over the top isnt it?
Glad the wifeys friend brothers dad, blah. WHo cares. You think it impresses us that you globbed onto someone who owns horses. Gee, what a hero. It looks as if thats your only qualification because you sure havent posted anything yet that gives us insight or though, thats for sure.
You are angry because you came here and talked smack about Tiger being the best three sprinter in the land, and I told you Anew would crush him, and he did. Sore loser who knwos nothing. Wanna talk accountability? be back in two seconds with all your ignorant Tiger posts you clown. Gimme a sec to copy them here on teh thread.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hoist I think you need counseling. This is a little over the top isnt it?
Glad the wifeys friend brothers dad, blah. WHo cares. You think it impresses us that you globbed onto someone who owns horses. Gee, what a hero. It looks as if thats your only qualification because you sure havent posted anything yet that gives us insight or though, thats for sure.
You are angry because you came here and talked smack about Tiger being the best three sprinter in the land, and I told you Anew would crush him, and he did. Sore loser who knwos nothing. Wanna talk accountability? be back in two seconds with all your ignorant Tiger posts you clown. Gimme a sec to copy them here on teh thread.

I realize you like to bash people and attack them personally because of who their daddy is or who their wife is (it isn't your fault that you are really insecure, I am sure it goes back to your childhood) but you made some statements about CQ and I am going to never let you hear the end of it when he gets trounced. As for Tiger, you never said Anew would beat him, in fact you said Anew who beat him earlier was just a claimer. I have a reason to root for Tiger so I will continue to root for him. LETS SEE THE POST WHERE YOU SAID ANEW WOULD CRUSH HIM. Mr. Accountability.

[alysheba4]

yeah, i couldnt believe it....... i had him and was ready to crumble my tote. that horse is a freak, that is one running fool.

Circular Quay is obviously a very nice 2-year-old, and the best thing about him is that he possesses a two-turn pedigree unlike the other nice juveniles we've seen thus far this summer (Other than Merv Griffin's Golden Missile colt)...he obviously likes CD with both wins coming there in a very professional manner from off the pace - which is not an easy thing for babies to do - and with the BC Juvy being in Louisville this year you certainly have to stamp him as the favorite until he is beaten...

Personally, I think there are horses out there that have shown more talent to this point - like his stablemates Minefield and Scat Daddy, but for a Thunder Gulch to go 1:09 and change in his second start as a two-year-old and beat Grade III horses in the process is impressive and a sign for things to come if he can stay sound....I promise you that this one won't prove to be most effective around one turn...

As for his race yesterday, he proved best late BUT he did get a little fortune....the race really set up for him with the quick and contested pace...

Nice colt...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I promise you that this one won't prove to be most effective around one turn...

This is kind of like when Jim Dolan promised Knick fans they would make the playoffs. It's not exactly a " promise " you can keep.