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[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Spoken like a true West Point member? Are you a West Point partner Exceller? If so good luck in the race.

I wouldn't tell you if I was, but there are quite a few members out there.

Originally Posted by Exceller

I wouldn't tell you if I was, but there are quite a few members out there.

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. You run into 15 people on a given day during Saratoga who tell you that "their" horse is running tomorrow, and when you ask who, they tell you the same horse all the others said, lol.
I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. You run into 15 people on a given day during Saratoga who tell you that "their" horse is running tomorrow, and when you ask who, they tell you the same horse all the others said, lol.
I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

Sadly, I have nothing to do with this one.

Originally Posted by Exceller

Sadly, I have nothing to do with this one.

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

He could still go to DE, that race isn't until mid to late July I believe.

Originally Posted by dr.fager

He could still go to DE, that race isn't until mid to late July I believe.

I know when it is Fager, I'm saying I would have pointed him to that one instead with maybe another condition prep first or trained him up to it. The track there is speed favoring as a general rule and the distance a little bit less of a stress than going as far as he would be. I realize that syndicates need to promote themselves and participate in big races as often as possible.
I think hes a nice horse and a sharp horse.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I know when it is Fager, I'm saying I would have pointed him to that one instead with maybe another condition prep first or trained him up to it. The track there is speed favoring as a general rule and the distance a little bit less of a stress than going as far as he would be. I realize that syndicates need to promote themselves and participate in big races as often as possible.
I think hes a nice horse and a sharp horse.

I knew you did Oracle, just in case you didn't see my first post I was hbgbswanson back in the old digs.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!! Tough luck dude. This is a nice one. Took him a while to come around, I know he was highly regarded and burned a lot of money at Gulf, of course one day he ran into Showing Up. Seems to be coming into his own. I can see taking a shot here, although I think I would have gone Leonard Richards with him at Delaware.
Did you have a piece of that freight train who won by 15 lengths up here last summer. I'm telling you, he would have been a NY bred champion, maybe an open graded stakes winner. His death was very very sad. His only race was incredible.

Showing Up and Bernardini. I didn't own any of the horse that I think you are talking about. My brother and I are buying into another with Dollase.

I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.


your post makes little sense, first you knock the two that have won on the track, then you say having a win on it is a big edge,
???? bipolar vision ??

Originally Posted by Secretariat

I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.


your post makes little sense, first you knock the two that have won on the track, then you say having a win on it is a big edge,
???? bipolar vision ??

Bob and John has never even run at Belmont you complete know nothing.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Bob and John has never even run at Belmont you complete know nothing.

opps he won at aqueduct, sorry you complete *******

Originally Posted by Secretariat

opps he won at aqueduct, sorry you complete asshole

Highlight this buddy boy. Next time you wanan take the time to copy and paste a piece, complete with highlighting, remember that the time you spend would be much better invested figuring out what the hell you are talking about. Its tiresome.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Highlight this buddy boy. Next time you wanan take the time to copy and paste a piece, complete with highlighting, remember that the time you spend would be much better invested figuring out what the hell you are talking about. Its tiresome.

the only thing tiresome here is this completely erroneous believe that you have that you seem to think you have more intelligence than everyone whom come into contact with.

a more appropriate response from you, or anyone with even a hint if intellect and class would have been.

I think you might be mistaken, LOL, Bobandjohn has never run at belmont.

truely people with understanding of life do not throw out insults without a conscious feeling of disonance,
you seem to lack any understanding at all of how to interact with others.
i made a simple mistake , it could have easily been corrected with a laugh, you however don't seem capable of interacting socially with people in a consistent manner.

[Cpt.Bodgit]

With this field not being close to an all star field why not take a shot with a horse that obviously likes the track and has run similar figures to others in the race. I think he has just as much of a shot as Glitters, Blue Grass or anyone else. Probably will be included on my tickets.

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Bob and John has never run at Belmont - won the Wood at Aqueduct

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. You run into 15 people on a given day during Saratoga who tell you that "their" horse is running tomorrow, and when you ask who, they tell you the same horse all the others said, lol.
I don't think that they are taking an unreasonable shot here. Its tuly a wide open race and the Derby also rans who are running didn't earn very good sheet numbers that day. I guess I'm not seeing in Bluegrass Cat, Stepp, and Bob and John, and Deputy Glitters what the rest of you are seeing. I only see horses. Sunrivers last was very unimpressive, very slow race and life and death to beat a horse who isnt a whole lot.
I see no reason why an allowance horse couldnt get lucky with a good trip or good ride, especially one who is already stabled at Belmont and will be running on his home track. Belmont is a quirky track to race on, so having a win over it already is a big edge.

So in otherwords, you aren't holding Sunriver's ding-ding in this race?

IMO-SR is going to bounce which is why I am not going to play him. B&J reminds me of Birdstone. He just keeps running and running. Whether he is fast enough, we shall see. If SR doesn't bounce, I will be the first to say "WHOOPSIE!"

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

So in otherwords, you aren't holding Sunriver's ding-ding in this race?

IMO-SR is going to bounce which is why I am not going to play him. B&J reminds me of Birdstone. He just keeps running and running. Whether he is fast enough, we shall see. If SR doesn't bounce, I will be the first to say "WHOOPSIE!"

Buffy people who analyze races and horses objectively don't have horses that they just bet everytime. Last time out I thought he was a cinch. He won, but not in the manner I would have liked. Therefore, I'm not sure if I will use him in the top slot in the Belmont or not. I don't hold horses "ding dings".
I just loved Western Revenges chances in the 1st at belmont, he won. But if he comes back next time against a field I don't think he can beat, I won't like him. Thats just how I am, I try and analyze things objectively.

[Buffymommy]

[quote=oracle80]Buffy people who analyze races and horses objectively don't have horses that they just bet everytime. Last time out I thought he was a cinch. He won, but not in the manner I would have liked. Therefore, I'm not sure if I will use him in the top slot in the Belmont or not. I don't hold horses "ding dings".


Just ribbing you a little. No harshness meant. I agree with you about him. I like the horse, but I think he is going to bounce.