Tin Man/Better Talk Now

[ninetoone]

I like The Tin Man, but he stole that race last year. I doubt a similar scenario plays out this year. I'd love to see those two go at it too...My $ will be on BTN though.

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

I like The Tin Man, but he stole that race last year. I doubt a similar scenario plays out this year. I'd love to see those two go at it too...My $ will be on BTN though.

I don't think he stole the race last year. He may have set a slow pace in the Million, but no horse seemed to be in a particular hurry to pass him at any point during the race, including at the finish line

[ninetoone]

I consider it a steal when you set fractions of 50 & 1:15 w/not much pressure & then hold off the closers...but I'm happy for him. He's a cool horse. I just don't think that scenario will play out again anytime soon.

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

I consider it a steal when you set fractions of 50 & 1:15 w/not much pressure & then hold off the closers...but I'm happy for him. He's a cool horse. I just don't think that scenario will play out again anytime soon.

Oh, I don't know about that. He seemed to do pretty well in the Shoemaker on Memorial Day at Hollywood. I think he won that race in good fashion

[ninetoone]

The Shoemaker was a great race for him (still was a slow pace), but you're talking apples and oranges. He wasn't on the lead the whole way...what do you consider a "steal"?

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

The Shoemaker was a great race for him (still was a slow pace), but you're talking apples and oranges. He wasn't on the lead the whole way...what do you consider a "steal"?

One word - Giacomo. It was fortunate I bet on him anyway, as well as Closing Argument.

As for last year's Million, I was waiting for all those other horses to pass him, and none of them did. So who does one fault for The Tin Man 'stealing' the race? Causes me to ponder.

[ninetoone]

Giacomo "stole" the race in the Derby? Somebody out there help me out here w/some horse racing terminology 101.

[Honu]

I love it !!!!!! The Tin Man has everyone guessing , in his defense about the Million last year , it was all jockey error behind him, they all thought the old fart would stop but they werent smart enough to even realize that their horses were about to break into a jog they were going sooooo slow. Now with him winning from a little off the pace in his first race back its got people wondering what hell do next time, well Ill tell you what he will do next time, whatever the rider wants, if the pace is hot hell let em go if its slow he will cruise to the lead , to Tinny it doesnt matter he just enjoys running .