Henrythenavigator

[NoChanceToDance]

Do you think it will matter stepping him back in trip? That would be my only concern with Henry.

He looked like an exceptional horse when making his debut, but that race wasn't the best.

For me i'd be looking at Pencil Hill who is unbeaten and already a listed race winner over five and judging by both of his win, six should should him even better than five. The form if the listed race was boosted when You'resothrilling won a Gr3 next time.

If i have a bet, i will probably take him.

[brockguy]

yeah, the drop back is a big concern for me. i never like seeing it for a juvenile and only the really good ones seems to be able to handle it, esp this early in the season.. Pencil Hill's time was very quick at the Curragh last time and he easily coped with the step down to 5f as I thought he needed every inch of 6f the last time.. It'll be interesting to see what colours he races in come Ascot..

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

yeah, the drop back is a big concern for me. i never like seeing it for a juvenile and only the really good ones seems to be able to handle it, esp this early in the season.. Pencil Hill's time was very quick at the Curragh last time and he easily coped with the step down to 5f as I thought he needed every inch of 6f the last time.. It'll be interesting to see what colours he races in come Ascot..

Has he been purchased then?

I really like the look of Pencil Hill actually, he has most in his favour and he already has some black type. Henry might turn out to be top class, but he will be underbet in the Coventry through hype and connections. He might just be very good, but i won't be betting him at a stupid price in a competitive race.

I think Luck Money will run very well, too. Did you see his debut at Newmarket a couple of weeks ago? He did it the hard way from the front and looked very professional in doing so. Paul Cole knows what it takes to win this and judging my what connections said after he won, this has been the target for a very long time.

I might put him and Pencil Hill in a reverse exacta. I will probably be in London next Tuesday, so i might not get to see it

[brockguy]

It's a superb race to start off Ascot as there are so many unexposed horses.. Yeah I saw Luck Money's win and was quite impressed. He's interesting as well as any from Chapple Hyam..
PH is still owned by Mrs Collins but they mentioned straight after his listed win that he was for sale and would listen to offers.. I wouldnt at all be surprised if he's in Haya's colours on Tuesday

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

It's a superb race to start off Ascot as there are so many unexposed horses.. Yeah I saw Luck Money's win and was quite impressed. He's interesting as well as any from Chapple Hyam..
PH is still owned by Mrs Collins but they mentioned straight after his listed win that he was for sale and would listen to offers.. I wouldnt at all be surprised if he's in Haya's colours on Tuesday

Luck Money beat Chapple Hyam's likely runner (can't remember it's name), so i wouldn't worry about that, i think both will improve from that run and i'd still have Luck Money to beat him again.

Well, that is a shame....... he looks an exciting prospect and i find it strange they want to sell him at this early stage.

At the end of the day, whether it Shiekh Mo, Godolphin or Princess Haya..... they are all basically being bought by Darley

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

At the end of the day, whether it Shiekh Mo, Godolphin or Princess Haya..... they are all basically being bought by Darley

exactly, she did buy Dandy Man and kept her with Tracey Collins so that was good of her. It was funny seeing the Sheik at Ascot last year. There was about 30 fellas with him and just one woman. Very odd sight... It made me think that they think the colt is an early season type who might be the finished article quite soon and they are trying to recoup their initial outlay (which was only 8k guineas..)

[brockguy]

Cashmans have the Coventry betting up..
2-1 Henry
7-1 Pencil Hill
8-1 Luck Money
10-1 Orientalist Art, Coasting, Yen Kinn
20-1 Mount Pleasure..