Capping

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I think if he was trained by someone else he'd be the most praised horse in training right now, which is silly really.

i think you're right about the first part, but not the second. this guy hasn't had one or two drugs charges, but 22. 22! so, no, it's not silly to feel less than excited about a horse he has.

it's a shame curlin is with him imo. had he been with a trainer who had never had a shadow of a doubt, then yeah, he'd be praised to the heavens.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

had he been with a trainer who had never had a shadow of a doubt, then yeah, he'd be praised to the heavens.

He was....Helen Pitts had him in his debut.

It's not like he's some chemically enhanced Steve Asmussen move-up.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was....Helen Pitts had him in his debut.

It's not like he's some chemically enhanced Steve Asmussen move-up.

Exactly.

[sumitas]

Randy Moss said today if he was going to bet $100 on the Belmont he would bet $100 Curlin/Hard Spun, cold exacta. Then for a tri put Rags underneath cold.

I love the cold exacta plays. And i love exactas with this format A/B,C at most. in other words, i like to limit my combos down to 1 or 2 horses per race or pass.

[jpops757]

Does anyone know what Curlin went for at the sale and was it a yearling or 2yr old? If he was a home bred, was he offered and didnt reach his min?

[jpops757]

I just looked in the form 57k at the kee sept 05 sale

[pointman]

I see Curlin as a single in this race. Not sure any three year old can beat him right now, certainly don't think these can.

[sumitas]

it's a 2 horse race, for sure. everybody else is running for 3rd.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was....Helen Pitts had him in his debut.

It's not like he's some chemically enhanced Steve Asmussen move-up.

yeah, i feel bad for pitts. and not saying curlin is chemically enhanced, but i am saying asmussen is less than respected in his chosen field.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you're right about the first part, but not the second. this guy hasn't had one or two drugs charges, but 22. 22! so, no, it's not silly to feel less than excited about a horse he has.

it's a shame curlin is with him imo. had he been with a trainer who had never had a shadow of a doubt, then yeah, he'd be praised to the heavens.

AND WHO IS THAT?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jpops757

AND WHO IS THAT?

who is what? trainers without shadows? no doubt plenty! not all trainers have drug positives-i'd say more don't than do.

see, this is a problem the thought that 'they all do it'. no, 'they' all don't!

Originally Posted by Danzig

who is what? trainers without shadows? no doubt plenty! not all trainers have drug positives-i'd say more don't than do.

see, this is a problem the thought that 'they all do it'. no, 'they' all don't!

the ones that are successful all do everyone one of them

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by slewpy

the ones that are successful all do everyone one of them

So EVERY trainer is either a cheater or a failure? That is a ridiculous statement, and it is also potentially insulting to at least one very valued member of this board.
You, quite frankly, have no idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by miraja2

So EVERY trainer is either a cheater or a failure? That is a ridiculous statement, and it is also potentially insulting to at least one very valued member of this board.
You, quite frankly, have no idea what you are talking about.

you quite frankley havent been in the horse business

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by slewpy

you quite frankley havent been in the horse business

So you really think that every horse trainer is either a failure or a cheater?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slewpy

the ones that are successful all do everyone one of them

i think you're incorrect.

you know, charlie witthingham, who has a race being run in his honor today, never had a positive. i guess he 'wasn't successful'?

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you're incorrect.

you know, charlie witthingham, who has a race being run in his honor today, never had a positive. i guess he 'wasn't successful'?

oh yes he did, have positives as have just about any trainer you can name from the modern era, im not saying that its bad, lots of horses need help so they can run pain free.

[Danzig]

well, go figure, since i could have sworn the other day, in an article about jenine sahadi (who hasn't had a positive, makes you wonder how her lit de justice did well) in bloodhorse, said he never had.