Early thoughts on Belmont Saturday Card

[GPK]

Originally Posted by golfer

Hey, Einstein's not running, so I can't lose any more $$ on him Saturday. Seriously, EC was brilliant LAST year, I know it's only 2 starts so far, but the Dubai performance was quite sub par.

VERY sub par is more like it....but that was a different class of horses than he is facing this Saturday.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

VERY sub par is more like it....but that was a different class of horses than he is facing this Saturday.

I understand that, but if he had run "his" race and still lost, that would be a different story. This coupled with the strange campaign he has had leaves me with major ????. As the favorite, giving weight, well you have to at least consider other options.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by golfer

I understand that, but if he had run "his" race and still lost, that would be a different story. This coupled with the strange campaign he has had leaves me with major ????. As the favorite, giving weight, well you have to at least consider other options.

Not every horse takes to shipping half way around the world. It's quite a bit different than shipping from NY to FL.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'll be betting against English Channel as well. He should be a big favorite and I can't take him. I definitely think Cosmonaut has a big shot in there. I am thinking about trying to fool around and use Minister's Joy for second and third because I think the odds will be there.

The reason I threw Steppenwolfer in there is that his dirt figs are very competitive, and his one turf fig, while slower than these, may have been compromised by the trip.

[GPK]

well...luck with Cosmonaut boys. Me personally, I don't see it.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really? He would have won the race at Pimlico by open lengths had he not had to jump over the horse that went down. Seems to be improving and wasn't that far off your favorite horse Cacique last year.

Other than your obsession who do you like in there?

I agree with you Jay...he would have won the Dixie...and beaten who, other than Einstein?

Outperformance??? Woodlander?? Dreadnaught??


Other than EC...

even without Shake the Bank, BTN still has a shot with Red Zipper entered. I also think Sky Conquerer rates a chance in here.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

I agree with you Jay...he would have won the Dixie...and beaten who, other than Einstein?

Outperformance??? Woodlander?? Dreadnaught??


Other than EC...

even without Shake the Bank, BTN still has a shot with Red Zipper entered. I also think Sky Conquerer rates a chance in here.

Sky Conqueror's last was ultra impressive, but he seems to move up big on wet/soft turf.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by golfer

Sky Conqueror's last was ultra impressive, but he seems to move up big on wet/soft turf.

He does move up on the wet...but he is capable on the firm footing as well.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Fair enough. I have to let Better Talk Now beat me, I don't see Red Zipper helping him out much as Red Zipper just isn't that fast early. Sky Conqueror is intriguing. And I actually like Dreadnaught. No world beater but a decent horse.

Do you guys really like Steppenwolfer? I am having a hard time seeing him even in the super....


and I am with you on BTN....I will let him beat me...even though I do think it sets up fairly well for him.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

Do you guys really like Steppenwolfer? I am having a hard time seeing him even in the super....


and I am with you on BTN....I will let him beat me...even though I do think it sets up fairly well for him.

Steppenwolfer is a pure hunch at this point, as I said, competitive dirt figs, but only 1 turf race, his most recent. Could surprise, or run last.. the odds will determine if he is worth the risk.