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Old 06-06-2007, 08:11 AM
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Did Matz ever give much consideration for pointing Chelokee towards the Belmont? Sorry once again if there was a big news article about Chelokee's status and I missed it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:03 AM
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Did Matz ever give much consideration for pointing Chelokee towards the Belmont? Sorry once again if there was a big news article about Chelokee's status and I missed it.
While it wouldn't have been the worst placement to go in the Belmont I think Matz just knows the horse isn't quite that fast to compete with the big boys (or girl). If he takes the High Cotton route he can build up a nice resume while running in spots he can win.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:31 AM
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While it wouldn't have been the worst placement to go in the Belmont I think Matz just knows the horse isn't quite that fast to compete with the big boys (or girl). If he takes the High Cotton route he can build up a nice resume while running in spots he can win.
I think Matz is perfectly happy to try to pick off some late-season races that will help breeding value. Remember that Chelokee's owner, Centennial Farms, also owns Vitruvius, a swift allowance winner at Aqueduct who was scratched from the Peter Pan. Matz probably knows that Chelokee COULD be able to develop into a Travers horse with the right progression.

It could be a great summer for Centennial Farms between Chelokee, Vitruvius, and Corinthian.

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Old 06-06-2007, 10:34 AM
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I think Matz is perfectly happy to try to pick off some late-season races that will help breeding value. Remember that Chelokee's owner, Centennial Farms, also owns Vitruvius, a swift allowance winner at Aqueduct who was scratched from the Peter Pan. Matz probably knows that Chelokee COULD be able to develop into a Travers horse with the right progression.

It could be a great summer for Centennial Farms between Chelokee, Vitruvius, and Corinthian.

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There are talks of running Corinthian five more times if he stays healthy which isn't very common these days with well bred G1 winners. I like Vitruvius a lot as well. Not so high on Chelokee. I think they are doing the right thing by putting him in the easy spots.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:36 AM
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Does anyone know why Vitruvias was scatched from the Peter Pan?

These things have a way of becoming " we're hoping to have him ready for the Donn."

Chelokee has a mild case of the " slows "....no?
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:40 AM
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Does anyone know why Vitruvias was scatched from the Peter Pan?

These things have a way of becoming " we're hoping to have him ready for the Donn."

Chelokee has a mild case of the " slows "....no?
Skin infection for Vitruvius, had to go on antibiotics. Same problem Corinthian had last summer when he came back in the allowance at Saratoga.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:43 AM
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Skin infection for Vitruvius, had to go on antibiotics. Same problem Corinthian had last summer when he came back in the allowance at Saratoga.

Doesn't a skin infection mean ringworm?
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:48 AM
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There are talks of running Corinthian five more times if he stays healthy which isn't very common these days with well bred G1 winners. I like Vitruvius a lot as well. Not so high on Chelokee. I think they are doing the right thing by putting him in the easy spots.
I think Chelokee being in Matz's care is certainly a good thing because he has never been known as one to hurry horses along or frivolously put them in a spot where they don't belong. He is certainly not as fast as the best of his crop, but down the road that could be a different story. I think he garnered so much attention because of the tough trip allowance win (that was not terribly quick) and what people really mis-construed as a tough trip in the Fla Derby. That trip wasn't easy, but he could have finished with a bit more gusto.

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