Rags to Riches confirmed for Belmont

blackthroatedwind · #1 06-05-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

She's a really nice filly, no question, and a mile isn't going to be a problem- but how often have we seen fillies like this go down in flames in the Acorn??

You'll have to give me some real examples.

Panty Raid is a joke by the way. The field she beat, with a perfect trip, in the Black Eyed Susan was disgraceful.

philcski · #2 06-05-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You'll have to give me some real examples.
Panty Raid is a joke by the way. The field she beat, with a perfect trip, in the Black Eyed Susan was disgraceful.

When was the last time a filly won the Comely and/or the Nassau then the Acorn? It's been a long time. Take any of those as examples...

blackthroatedwind · #3 06-05-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

When was the last time a filly won the Comely and/or the Nassau then the Acorn? It's been a long time. Take any of those as examples...

Give me some actual examples.

philcski · #4 06-05-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Give me some actual examples.

Last year, Adieu came out of a 1 turn race (La Troienne) as the 9/5 favorite and flopped.
2005, speed type Splendid Blended (also the La Troienne I believe) was 2-1 finished 4th.
2004, Society Selection (a filly I liked very much) came out of a win in the Comely and finished 2nd at 2-1.

blackthroatedwind · #5 06-05-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Last year, Adieu came out of a 1 turn race (La Troienne) as the 9/5 favorite and flopped.
2005, speed type Splendid Blended (also the La Troienne I believe) was 2-1 finished 4th.
2004, Society Selection (a filly I liked very much) came out of a win in the Comely and finished 2nd at 2-1.

Adieu was always slow. Splendid Blended hardly embarrassed herself in a pretty tough rendition and Society Selection....well you know.

I would say that Dream Rush enters this Acorn with a stronger hand. Believe me, I'm rarely sold, and I want to see the pps, but Dream Rush will be tough unless there is significant speed in this race.

philcski · #6 06-05-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Adieu was always slow. Splendid Blended hardly embarrassed herself in a pretty tough rendition and Society Selection....well you know.

I would say that Dream Rush enters this Acorn with a stronger hand. Believe me, I'm rarely sold, and I want to see the pps, but Dream Rush will be tough unless there is significant speed in this race.

I know you aren't, and I love that we're arguing a race that hasn't even been drawn yet! Maybe there won't be anyone interesting to beat her with. I just hate settling for the obvious choice in a race like this, especially on a big day where the obvious selection goes off at 3/5 instead of even money.

philcski · #7 06-09-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Adieu was always slow. Splendid Blended hardly embarrassed herself in a pretty tough rendition and Society Selection....well you know.

I would say that Dream Rush enters this Acorn with a stronger hand. Believe me, I'm rarely sold, and I want to see the pps, but Dream Rush will be tough unless there is significant speed in this race.

I'm retracting all my ideas in the Acorn... Dream Rush is impossible to beat.

SniperSB23 · #8 06-05-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

When was the last time a filly won the Comely and/or the Nassau then the Acorn? It's been a long time. Take any of those as examples...

Jersey Girl in 98 and Star de Lady Ann in 96 are the only two to win the Nassau and Acorn in the same year. Of course the Nassau has only been run 11 times.

blackthroatedwind · #9 06-05-2007, 10:42 AM

Ruffian did pretty well in the Acorn after winning the Comely.

blackthroatedwind · #10 06-05-2007, 10:48 AM

Mom's Command and Meadow Star did similarly.

Those races have changed substantially in the last twenty years, and not just because the Nassau County used to be a premier 1 1/8 race for older horses, and the fields are substantially weaker. I would like the list of supposed good horses that came out of the Comely or Nassau County and bombed in the Acorn.