Rasheed Wallace

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Kev this is all opinion and supposition on my part. The only thing that matters in the end is the ring.

Too simplistic of an argument.

[EpBurns]

I know I am jumping in this argument late but I will tell you based on my theory to be a great player in the NBA you have to make the players around you better and to me Magic, Larry and MJ all made the players around them better, that is why I dislike Kobe so much he doesnt make anyone around him better only himself, Lebron makes the players around him better in my opinion. The other night I never thought I would watch a player come close to being what Magic was like on the court but Lebron came close that is the first time since Magic retired that I have thought that about another NBA player.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Too simplistic of an argument.

What argument am I trying to make?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

What argument am I trying to make?

When comparing players that the only thing that matters is championships...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When comparing players that the only thing that matters is championships...

Actually it was teams with certain players.
So ya got me. Why I oughta...

I usually find it hard to agree with men that wear fake hair, and have a penchant for biting women in the butt, butt... Marv is right.

That was a superior athletic performance in the playoffs. About as good as it gets. The Manchild.
I think I would like this series to go two more games if Lebron is going to play like this every night.
That was really a fun game to watch.

Originally Posted by pgardn

I usually find it hard to agree with men that wear fake hair, and have a penchant for biting women in the butt, butt... Marv is right.

That was a superior athletic performance in the playoffs. About as good as it gets. The Manchild.
I think I would like this series to go two more games if Lebron is going to play like this every night.
That was really a fun game to watch.

ESPN stole my line.
Completely original... Never uttered before.

What a great day for basketball talk. Kobe has a mental breakdown, and Lebron takes over the world.

[King Glorious]

To say MJ wasn't a team player early is wrong. I remember a stretch in 1989 when they had lost their point guard where he moved there and went for seven straight triple-doubles and 10 in 11 games. That season, he ended up with 15 triple-doubles and five more games where he missed it by one assist or rebound. Magic had 17 that season. Jason Kidd's career high is 12. MJ was one of the few players in league history that if u needed 45 one night, he could get it. If u needed 15 boards the next, he could get it. If u needed 15 assists, he could get it. It's just that in those earlier days, his team needed him scoring 35 a night in order to have any chance. But he absolutely could play the team game if he wanted to. He could do whatever he wanted to do on the court. Others have made the point that he didn't have a team to play with then. That's true so he needed to be more of an individual. But I hate when people say he didn't become a winner until he learned to play team ball. That's just not true.