Rasheed Wallace

[The Bid]

No you buffoon, what Im saying is Brown is a terrible coach because they come out from every halftime firing up playground shots. He makes no adjustments on Defense and its almost cost them both games in Cleveland. They dont come out with a plan in the third quarter, they are put back on their heels before raw talent puts them back in front. If you think Eric Snow should be in at the end of the game shooting freethrows youre out of your mind.

Oh, and Flip Saunders and Brown are both terrible coaches, both front offices have done a great job with everything except hiring coaches. Which is why both the Cavs or Pistons will get drilled by the well coached Spurs.

[The Bid]

Its amazing to any Cavs fan that they are tied 2-2 after the way Brown has coached.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Its amazing to any Cavs fan that they are tied 2-2 after the way Brown has coached.

furthermore, if you only blame Brown for the 3rd quarters, then you also have to solely give him credit for the 4th and quarters and 1st halves. Otherwise you are inconsistent. If it is his fault for poor play in the 3rd, it certainly must be his doing for the good that goes on the rest of the game right?? So when they do well it is their talent and youth...but when they do poorly it is only Brown and not their youth??

Give it a break here.

[horseofcourse]

mortimer, what's the most times you ever hit return between utterances?? Can you hit it 1,000 times just to see what will happen??

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

mortimer, what's the most times you ever hit return between utterances?? Can you hit it 1,000 times just to see what will happen??

Yes.





It's much the same reason you belch out your NBA coaching analysis.







I've tried to hope you lay something between the lines.












But it's just not there.













Not between nor in.











But keep hacking away.












You'll get there.















Given the modern advances in medical technology and the fact you are not over 3 years of age..........

































....why you should have enough time.

[The Bid]

What has he done in the forth? By the forth the best player in the NBA, and his supporting cast have their backs up against the wall for what he failed to do in the third. The players adjust themselves, that guys not doing anything productive on the bench. He calls bad Timeouts, he doesnt set solid plays on last possessions, he makes terrible substitutions, hes just a bad coach.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

What has he done in the forth? By the forth the best player in the NBA, and his supporting cast have their backs up against the wall for what he failed to do in the third. The players adjust themselves, that guys not doing anything productive on the bench. He calls bad Timeouts, he doesnt set solid plays on last possessions, he makes terrible substitutions, hes just a bad coach.

No, you're wrong. It is inconsistent to put all the blame on him for the bad things and all the credit to the players for the good things. It is wrong and poor debating strategy...you can't win doing that. You are just making things worse. I could just as easily say...what on earth is the best player in the NBA doing it ruining Brown's tremendous coaching in the 1st half by going 0 for 6 in the 3rd quarter?? That argument is the same as yours and just as ridiculous. How on earth can you say it's all the players in the 4th but all Brown in the 3rd?? There is simply no comibination of the two at any point??

[Antitrust32]

i feel like there is a movie going on around here in this nba coach thread

Kinda like "Metro Hoosiers"

[The Bid]

You obviously dont watch much basketball.

When Eric Snow is in to close out a game and ends up taking two crucial freethrows, its bad coaching

When you have a team backed up and dont close them out, its poor coaching

When you consistantly substitute the wrong players, while leaving bad sets on the floor its poor coaching.

When you start a guy who can barely walk, and he leads out the second half shooting three drawn up bricks, its bad coaching

When you dont Tell Lebron to attack the basket when they are in penalty, its poor coaching.

When you lose two on the road in which you outplayed the other team both games, its poor coaching.

The guy is a bad coach, just terrible. The Cavs have won both games because of the raw talent, they have been close games because of poor coaching.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You obviously dont watch much basketball.

When Eric Snow is in to close out a game and ends up taking two crucial freethrows, its bad coaching

When you have a team backed up and dont close them out, its poor coaching

When you consistantly substitute the wrong players, while leaving bad sets on the floor its poor coaching.

When you start a guy who can barely walk, and he leads out the second half shooting three drawn up bricks, its bad coaching

When you dont Tell Lebron to attack the basket when they are in penalty, its poor coaching.

When you lose two on the road in which you outplayed the other team both games, its poor coaching.

The guy is a bad coach, just terrible. The Cavs have won both games because of the raw talent, they have been close games because of poor coaching.

When you tell Gibson to penetrate and get to the line it's tremendous coaching...

When you tell Gooden to make his wide open shots and draw up plays that continually give him wide open shots it's tremendous coaching...

When you come from behind in the 4th two games in a row against a 5 time consecutive conference finalist it is tremendous coaching...

When you put James on billups in the 4th quater and he is stifled that is tremendous coaching...

when donyell Marshall scores 7 points in the 3rd quarter when the team can't shoot, and keeps you in the game, that is a tremendous substitution and tremendous coaching...

When the plays you call get you two wide open shots to win games on the raod against a 5 time consecutive conference finalist that is tremendous coaching...

Yeah...this is really hard Bid isn't it???

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

No you buffoon, what Im saying is Brown is a terrible coach because they come out from every halftime firing up playground shots. He makes no adjustments on Defense and its almost cost them both games in Cleveland. They dont come out with a plan in the third quarter, they are put back on their heels before raw talent puts them back in front. If you think Eric Snow should be in at the end of the game shooting freethrows youre out of your mind.

Oh, and Flip Saunders and Brown are both terrible coaches, both front offices have done a great job with everything except hiring coaches. Which is why either the Cavs or Pistons will get drilled by the well coached Spurs.

They're only playground shots if you miss them. James threw up shots in both fourth quarters in cleveland that went in. When they go in you do well in quarters...when they don't go in (ie the 3rd quarter yesterdy) you don't.

(just a hint...there are two teams playing. Not just one. As I stated in my first post...when you have two evenly matched teams like this there will be ebbs and flows. POints in the game where one will play better. Cleveland is simply not a good enough team to win every quarter against Detroit by 10 points and win games by 40 and Detroit isn't good enough to do that either. Why is that so hard for you to understand??)

[The Bid]

Because I think Cleveland is younger, quicker, and more talented than Detroit. If they utilized what they have this series would already be over.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Because I think Cleveland is younger, quicker, and more talented than Detroit. If they utilized what they have this series would already be over.

You are kidding right?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

both front offices have done a great job with everything except hiring coaches.

Check out the contracts that the Cavs are on the hook for and say this again with a straight face

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Check out the contracts that the Cavs are on the hook for and say this again with a straight face

You mean that money spent on the Damon Jones signing wasn't well spent!!! C'mon, quit spoiling this Cavs love fest!!

[Mortimer]

DebODeb should be Clevelands coach.


But if Thebby was Detroits coach she would just dart her.








I don't want Thebby as Detroits coach.

[declansharbor]

I met Rasheed Wallace his senior year at Simon Gratz. I was at a nearby rec center after Sonny Hill camp with my older brother. Sheed was playing by himself when we asked him to be our 3rd member of a 3 on 3. He said yes, but told us he had to do something real quick. He runs away and comes back with a bucket full of red stuff. He wet his hand, dipped it in the bucket, and proceeded to take a run at the rim. His handprint is still up at Jardel, at the very top of the backboard. We were in awe, as he was telling us his plans to go to UNC. Long story short, we played against two older gentlemen and one of their kids. My brother called a questionable foul, which the older guy didnt take well to. Next play, the old dude floors my brother and said " now thats a foul .. Rasheed beat the $hit out of dude. He charged him, tackled him, and continued to beat him in front of his crying son. He got up and said "Now thats a foul"...Needless to say, game over.. Will never forget that as long as I live.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You mean that money spent on the Damon Jones signing wasn't well spent!!! C'mon, quit spoiling this Cavs love fest!!

I cant believe how bad that guy is!!!

[Mortimer]

Mr.Shill...I mean Shell.



You do have the cap problem correct. Fine work.


But really........shame on you for the rest.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I cant believe how bad that guy is!!!

With regard to Jones, he did not step onto the floor the Washington series or the first 5 games of the NJ series. In game 6 they played him with Marshall, and Gibson after they scored like 6 points in the 3rd quarter with James in foul trouble and they had a big 4th quarter with jones on the floor to blow the game out. Even though it was Marshall and Gibson and James that hit all the 3s that quarter, he did enough to get him back into the rotation for the Detroit series. The last 20 games of the regular season, and the first 9 playoff games, Jones pretty much did not step on the floor.