Met Mile

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Sun King just doesnt have it anymore. The horse doesnt have any improvement at all in him. This is sad, as I like this horse. I didnt understand him being 7/2 in this race at all.

This post would suggest that he at one time had "it". Isn't this a horse that's been racing sinc 2004 and has YET to win a grade one race? As weak as a lot of grade one's come up, he's still never won one. This is not a coincidence. Sure, he's run some helluva races with efforts that would win more than their fair share of grade ones........but then he's had plenty of opportunities against lesser fields to duplicate those efforts and finally win one and he fails to come through. Every single time. What people fail to realize is that when he comes close to winning, as in last year's Suburban and Met, it's because the winners were running less than their best, not because he ran so great. Good horse. Talented horse. But in his fourth year of racing, with as many chances as he's had......he's just not a grade one horse. Even winning one of these watered down events this year will not change that fact. Winning a grade one doesn't make u a grade one horse.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This post would suggest that he at one time had "it". Isn't this a horse that's been racing sinc 2004 and has YET to win a grade one race? As weak as a lot of grade one's come up, he's still never won one.

Do you want to guess what percentage of horses racing since 2004 have won a GR1? Its minute. What is the obsession everyone seems to have with determing who is and isn't a "true GR1" caliber horse? And if there were some objective definition for a "true" GR1 horse, how many Gr1 races are we going to fill if only "true" gr1 horses are entered?

I personally have no problem with a horse trying over and over in tough grade one spots with only occaisonal on the board appearances. I like the determination, the effort, the hope for that sought after big win.
You said even if Sun King wins a Gr1, he will still not be a "true" Gr1 horse. Why don't you just admit you don't like Sun King? There are plenty of other horses that fit this same description that you never talk about.
It always Sun King and Jazil that you keep trying to make these absurd distinctions about.