SUMWON: Game 2nd in Thriller..

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what is your point? You can have a good trip and get nailed by a better horse. Who said it was a tough trip?

My point is the horse had a perfect trip. Thats all. Probably shoulda won with that perfect trip. . But still ran very respectable. The horse who beat her is obviously a good horse to catch her with that trip.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

My point is the horse had a perfect trip. Thats all. Probably shoulda won with that perfect trip. . But still ran very respectable. The horse who beat her is obviously a good horse to catch her with that trip.

How to you figure that with a perfect trip she should have won? The general public had the horse that beat her at 3 to 5 odds. Translation: Sumwon was supposed to take a good beating from her regardless of the trip. Instead, Sumwon made that filly fully extend herself to get by.

FYI, SWLY gets a good trip everytime because she has natural speed.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

How to you figure that with a perfect trip she should have won? The general public had the horse that beat her at 3 to 5 odds. Translation: Sumwon was supposed to take a good beating from her regardless of the trip. Instead, Sumwon made that filly fully extend herself to get by.

FYI, SWLY gets a good trip everytime because she has natural speed.

She will never get a bad trip I agree. She was late changing to her right lead and once she did after Willie urged her over, she had another burst to nearly win. I think with a timely lead change at the top of the stretch rather than mid stretch, she'll be ever better as others have said on here.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

How to you figure that with a perfect trip she should have won? The general public had the horse that beat her at 3 to 5 odds. Translation: Sumwon was supposed to take a good beating from her regardless of the trip. Instead, Sumwon made that filly fully extend herself to get by.

FYI, SWLY gets a good trip everytime because she has natural speed.

Jim

You seem like a rational person. You dont think that a horse that gets a perfect trip should win? I understand the favorite was suppose to win...but you know as well as I do that fav's dont always win.

I am not saying she ran bad today.....IMHO I just thought she shoulda won off the trip.

No need for the nuclear assault being launched at me by some. I come in peace. Lol.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Jim

You seem like a rational person. You dont think that a horse that gets a perfect trip should win? I understand the favorite was suppose to win...but you know as well as I do that fav's dont always win.

I am not saying she ran bad today.....IMHO I just thought she shoulda won off the trip.

No need for the nuclear assault being launched at me by some. I come in peace. Lol.

NO assault. You make some good points. Humble Janet even had a better trip getting through on the inside and she passed Sumwon, and Sumwon did outfight her and ran past her and nearly got to LE Chateau as well. She was also getting 7 lbs from the winner as well which must be taken into account.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

NO assault. You make some good points. Humble Janet even had a better trip getting through on the inside and she passed Sumwon, and Sumwon did outfight her and ran past her and nearly got to LE Chateau as well. She was also getting 7 lbs from the winner as well which must be taken into account.

Exactly. I thought the 2 would easily get by her. The 2 didnt. That alone was impressive enough.

In all honesty I think sometime people who are involved in owning a horse become "blinded" at times to whats really going on. The person who called me an a-hole obviosuly cant handle losing so perhaps shouldnt be involved in the game. I am just stating some facts.

You all got a nice horse for 25k. You should be happy. After the first race the horse might not have seemd like a great buy...but she is a nice purchase.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Exactly. I thought the 2 would easily get by her. The 2 didnt. That alone was impressive enough.

In all honesty I think sometime people who are involved in owning a horse become "blinded" at times to whats really going on. The person who called me an a-hole obviosuly cant handle losing so perhaps shouldnt be involved in the game. I am just stating some facts.

You all got a nice horse for 25k. You should be happy. After the first race the horse might not have seemd like a great buy...but she is a nice purchase.

As if YOU know what's really going on. thanks for enlightening everyone.
you have not provided any facts, only keep restating that you think that she should have won since she got a good trip. that's not a fact, it's your opinion.

the person that called you an a-hole was responding to your "skirt" comment.
You say you come in peace but to me it seems like you have another agenda, namely pouring cold water on some people that were a little enthusiatic about their horse. I'm sure they were all thrilled that she nearly pulled off the upset, but you had to come along and state the "facts" that what she really did was "settle" for second.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

stone gossard .....soon as you go out and find a horse ..pay for it .train it to go from 15 claimers at the mtn to 50 allw with a 30 plus beyer improvment ill take your opinion as fact....unlil then you should just be positive..as most on here are very excited ..

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

As if YOU know what's really going on. thanks for enlightening everyone.
you have not provided any facts, only keep restating that you think that she should have won since she got a good trip. that's not a fact, it's your opinion.

the person that called you an a-hole was responding to your "skirt" comment.
You say you come in peace but to me it seems like you have another agenda, namely pouring cold water on some people that were a little enthusiatic about their horse. I'm sure they were all thrilled that she nearly pulled off the upset, but you had to come along and state the "facts" that what she really did was "settle" for second.

It's obvious yourself and some others cant handle a different opinion than yours. Thats too bad. I guess if anyone who might have a diffferent opinion on here should not be heard. Kinda of f* cked up.

No agenda

No cold water.

Just stating something that a lot of other people who saw the race might have seen.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Jim

You seem like a rational person. You dont think that a horse that gets a perfect trip should win? I understand the favorite was suppose to win...but you know as well as I do that fav's dont always win.

I am not saying she ran bad today.....IMHO I just thought she shoulda won off the trip.

No need for the nuclear assault being launched at me by some. I come in peace. Lol.

No nuclear assault. You told me not to get my skirt in a knot and I responded to your juvenile comment.

I own many other horses. Which means nothing in this discussion. I was trying to make a point which I apparently failed to do, but I thank AJ for making it for me.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

No nuclear assault. You told me not to get my skirt in a knot and I responded to your juvenile comment.

I own many other horses. Which means nothing in this discussion. I was trying to make a point which I apparently failed to do, but I thank AJ for making it for me.

Come on man...the skirt in a knot thing was a joke. I dont even know if you own a skirt.


Good luck with everything.

[my miss storm cat]

Congrats to Sumwon, and to all of you!