Congressman Ron Paul on the VT shootings

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You're wrong. Giuliani is not an idiot or a liar. He is an idiot and a liar.

He will say absolutely anything whether it is truth or lie. He's an idiot for thinking people are stupid enough to buy his bs. If that's not enough his campaign is paying his ex-nurse wife $15,000 a month for helping to write his speeches. That alone makes him an idiot. He's also said he will have his wife attend cabinet meetings. He's an embarrasment.

Well then you guys need to thank Ron Paul with setting Gulliani up with on of the biggest home runs I have seen in a debate.

Dr. Paul. Oh yes this makes him credible. The Dr. part. Earth to Dr. Paul, the Middle East is important, pulling back into a shell will solve nothing. He is an isolationist. He will tell you he does not want to be in the Middle East militarily, and that sounds great right now. But he does not want a thing to do with the Middle East diplomatically either. Earth to Dr. Paul. The US is not the only country that has a Jones for oil. Sorry folks, the Middle East is very important. Walking away will do nothing to aide the situation. Lebanon is blowing up. Again. Israel is getting ready to strike yet again once their own political situation is worked out. Iran... Paul's plan is not to intervene which in his terms means walk away. This worked really well right after WWI.
Our world is now one, like it or not.
People better wake up. How many of you run your car and house with solar power? We are not there yet.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well then you guys need to thank Ron Paul with setting Gulliani up with on of the biggest home runs I have seen in a debate.

Dr. Paul. Oh yes this makes him credible. The Dr. part. Earth to Dr. Paul, the Middle East is important, pulling back into a shell will solve nothing. He is an isolationist. He will tell you he does not want to be in the Middle East militarily, and that sounds great right now. But he does not want a thing to do with the Middle East diplomatically either. Earth to Dr. Paul. The US is not the only country that has a Jones for oil. Sorry folks, the Middle East is very important. Walking away will do nothing to aide the situation. Lebanon is blowing up. Again. Israel is getting ready to strike yet again once their own political situation is worked out. Iran... Paul's plan is not to intervene which in his terms means walk away. This worked really well right after WWI.
Our world is now one, like it or not.
People better wake up. How many of you run your car and house with solar power? We are not there yet.

Guys like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are important. Their views are very different than the more manstream candidates but they are voices that should be heard.

Would you be happier if all the Republican candidates had the same position on every single issue? Or if during the GOP debates the candidates would all just be arguing what the exact name of the color of the carpet is? That's what you would get.

The people who better wake up are the ones running the Republican party. This is the party whose leadership will go to the wall to protect Alberto F'ing Gonzales while having no room at the table for a guy like Colin Powell.

Don't worry about Ron Paul. He's not going anywhere. But hopefully you didn't buy in on the post debate hatchet job they did on him.

Now Giuliani? If that mofo wins I will leave the country. Maybe I'll go to Texas.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Guys like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are important. Their views are very different than the more manstream candidates but they are voices that should be heard.

Would you be happier if all the Republican candidates had the same position on every single issue? Or if during the GOP debates the candidates would all just be arguing what the exact name of the color of the carpet is? That's what you would get.

The people who better wake up are the ones running the Republican party. This is the party whose leadership will go to the wall to protect Alberto F'ing Gonzales while having no room at the table for a guy like Colin Powell.

Don't worry about Ron Paul. He's not going anywhere. But hopefully you didn't buy in on the post debate hatchet job they did on him.

Now Giuliani? If that mofo wins I will leave the country. Maybe I'll go to Texas.

Stud: leaving the country....going to Texas....Very Good

[golfer]

Forgetting his "alleged" past foibles, watch this video and tell me where you disagree with ANYTHING he said last night.
I promise you he is the only "politician" to EVER tell the TRUTH about the US's involvement (CIA) with the Shah of Iran, Osama Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B9KWISuvZWs

[GenuineRisk]

Thanks for the link, golfer. I can't vote for an anti-abortion candidate, especially one whose opposition to Medicaid insures that he won't be doing anything to make contraception more accessible to poor women (a policy that guarantees women's deaths since no one will ever be able to stop people having sex). That said, it's really refreshing to see a Republican candidate flatly stating the truth- that our interventionist policies in the Middle East over the last 50 years led to where we are today. I don't think there's an easy answer to that- we're still as oil-addicted as ever- but I think we can never find a way through these issues until we admit our own role in creating them. Gives me hope for the GOP. Now, if someone besides McCain (whom I can't stand) would actually speak out against torture, they'll really be getting somewhere...

Here's more excellent Bill Maher:

http://salon.com/opinion/feature/200...ter/index.html

Originally Posted by golfer

Forgetting his "alleged" past foibles, watch this video and tell me where you disagree with ANYTHING he said last night.
I promise you he is the only "politician" to EVER tell the TRUTH about the US's involvement (CIA) with the Shah of Iran, Osama Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B9KWISuvZWs

Little snippets do not make a man. He has been around a long time. I look at this man in totality. And I thank him for his honesty. About Jews running the Congress, and blacks swiftly stealing his wallet. Oh yes, 95% of the Blacks in DC are criminals. 95%... he apparently counted.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Little snippets do not make a man. He has been around a long time. I look at this man in totality. And I thank him for his honesty. About Jews running the Congress, and blacks swiftly stealing his wallet. Oh yes, 95% of the Blacks in DC are criminals. 95%... he apparently counted.

Here's the best article I could find in terms of quoting him most directly:

http://www.chron.com/content/chronic...5/23/paul.html

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Here's the best article I could find in terms of quoting him most directly:

http://www.chron.com/content/chronic...5/23/paul.html

He has been around before the internet. 85% not 95%. I missed by 10%. I wonder how this data was obtained. The deal is this: a guy appears to show some sensible comments on the war in Iraq and it grants him immunity from his earlier political statements. When you live in a state that a guy has been in for a long time, and you have followed him because of his more than strange views, it gets a bit upsetting when he is suddenly proclaimed sane because of a U-tube bit and a presidential bid.