Borel's in Preakness

[MaTH716]

I really have no problem with the ride, and the fact that Curlin got SS at the wire. I think that they are both excellent horses and I hope they are around to run at four. It didn't cost me anything so it is not sour grapes. Although, I would have liked to see SS go to Belmont with a shot at the TC. I just wish that Calvin did not look back when he did. I think he had nothing to gain by getting a glimpse at that point. Especially knowing that the horse can get a little lazy in the stretch when he gets ahead. I think he looked because he was hoping he was clear so he could showboat at the wire like he did in the derby. I want to believe that the look did not cost him, but I just can't get away from it.

[Bobby Fischer]

Its a little crazy to think, but if some of us are right about the energy distribution and timing in a race (and our views may be way off as well!) , then a lot of these jockeys don't have a perfect sense of timing a pace. Even if they did some of the moves they make wouldn't be corrected in real time - an error usually only becomes obvious in hindsight.

Its all part of the game. Hopefully they demonstrate some level of consistency.

[Jax Cajun]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I really have no problem with the ride, and the fact that Curlin got SS at the wire. I think that they are both excellent horses and I hope they are around to run at four. It didn't cost me anything so it is not sour grapes. Although, I would have liked to see SS go to Belmont with a shot at the TC. I just wish that Calvin did not look back when he did. I think he had nothing to gain by getting a glimpse at that point. Especially knowing that the horse can get a little lazy in the stretch when he gets ahead. I think he looked because he was hoping he was clear so he could showboat at the wire like he did in the derby. I want to believe that the look did not cost him, but I just can't get away from it.

I seriously doubt that Calvin was looking to showboat. He felt Curlin coming and peeked back to see where he was. Calvin wasn't running so looking back does not deter the horse. The horse had already quit racing because he thought he'd won, according to Carl. Now you can think he is lying to everybody or believe your own interpretation.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I seriously doubt that Calvin was looking to showboat. He felt Curlin coming and peeked back to see where he was. Calvin wasn't running so looking back does not deter the horse. The horse had already quit racing because he thought he'd won, according to Carl. Now you can think he is lying to everybody or believe your own interpretation.

I just think that he had nothing to gain by looking back. If he felt Curlin coming, he should have tried to get a little more out of SS. I do not if it would have mattered, but you saw what he lost by.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that he had nothing to gain by looking back. If he felt Curlin coming, he should have tried to get a little more out of SS. I do not if it would have mattered, but you saw what he lost by.

Looking back is not an issue. My issue is why he continued to whip the horse when having a two length lead. If he stayed off the whip, you have yourself a shot at The TC.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Curlin stumbled out of the gate, had to ridden along at a key stage very early on in the race, was under a hand ride long before the half mile pole, didn't corner well on the far turn, and got swallowed off the far turn because he couldn't get the needed seperation on Street Sense.....

Borel rode a flawless race....and his horse has a habit of doing everything wrong in the very late stages of his race.

This thread is a bit comical.

I'm just waiting for a 'How easily would Curlin have won the Derby if he was ridden by Ramon Dominguez?' thread.

[eajinabi]

"....has a habit of doing everything wrong in the very late stages of his race"

The jock helped him do it.

[PeteMugg]

Hats off to Curlin for being the best in the Preakness. I had a good day of capping so it's not sour grapes on my part, but all this about Borel being flawless is getting pretty old, too. Heck, he tried to run up Curlin's ass in the very first turn, had to check a bit and definitely lost some ground. As to looking back in the stretch, can't say it cost him the race, but it was not the thing to do. Far from flawless.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

"....has a habit of doing everything wrong in the very late stages of his race"

The jock helped him do it.

when is the last time you have ridden in a horse race? if he stopped whipping and hand rode you would then be on here stating that jocks carry whips for a reason and if he hit SS 2 more times he would have won. give it a rest. SS and Curlin are 2 very nice colts who ran a very memorable race.