Rags To Riches to Belmont?

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

There's no doubt in my mind that he's "desperate" to win a TC race. What else would you call the entry of Circular Quay in the Preakness? This was a light-bodied horse that didn't run in the Wood because four weeks to the Derby would be "too close." So how do you then explain running him back in two weeks in the Preakness.

I don't think there's any question that Pletcher will do whatever he can to get that first Triple Crown win and quell the whispers about why his stable has performed so poorly on the days when the TRPB "Big Race" teams are in place.

That all being said, I think this is a very special filly. In the absence of Street Sense and Curlin, she'd probably be one of the race favorites.

you are assuming it was Pletcher's decision to run the horse there.

[Danzig]

if the 'big three' go in the belmont, pletcher says rags will not go, but will point to the mother goose instead....if two of three go, he says he'll consider it....

sightseeing is not pointing to the belmont, shug wants to give him more time. nobiz a possibility.

[King Glorious]

My question is which two of the three would have to not run in order for the Belmont to be likely and which one of the three would have to skip the race in order for him to consider it strongly? Say for instance only Hard Spun goes. Does Pletcher then go in the Belmont with Rags? What if the one is Curlin or if it's Street Sense? Does he still go because it's only one? I don't know if that makes sense to me. If he's not going in with the intention of winning, why go at all? And if he is going with the intention of winning.....and thinks his horse can beat either Curlin or Street Sense, shouldn't he feel that his horse can beat both of them since they are pretty much even? And if he feels his horse can beat them, he should feel his horse can beat Hard Spun too. So why not run if all three are there if u feel u can beat all three?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm desperate to win Friday

or Riot may get violent, all decked out in her DEE TEE stable gear (and undergear)

I'm just happy that the smart Sumwon hasn't yet figured out how to escape from the shedrow, after she throws her hotwalkers around for grins and entertainment. I know you don't train hurdlers.

Rags to Riches may indeed be the best three-year-old in the country, she can win the Belmont, and I'd love to see her there. I don't think Hard Spun wants to go that far, but we'll see, I guess. I wish Street Sense and Curlin would not enter, take some short time off, come back late summer and hammer away at each other all fall and make true legends of themselves, with Hard Spun in the mix.

Rags to Riches wins the Belmont, a length ahead of Curlin, two in front of Tiago.

I'm sending you my lucky underwear to wear in my absence. Danzig will get me a picture

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm just happy that the smart Sumwon hasn't yet figured out how to escape from the shedrow, after she throws her hotwalkers around for grins and entertainment. I know you don't train hurdlers.

Rags to Riches may indeed be the best three-year-old in the country, she can win the Belmont, and I'd love to see her there. I don't think Hard Spun wants to go that far, but we'll see, I guess. I wish Street Sense and Curlin would not enter, take some short time off, come back late summer and hammer away at each other all fall and make true legends of themselves, with Hard Spun in the mix.

Rags to Riches wins the Belmont, a length ahead of Curlin, two in front of Tiago.

I'm sending you my lucky underwear to wear in my absence. Danzig will get me a picture

oh, i'd have to get EVERYONE a picture!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My question is which two of the three would have to not run in order for the Belmont to be likely and which one of the three would have to skip the race in order for him to consider it strongly? Say for instance only Hard Spun goes. Does Pletcher then go in the Belmont with Rags? What if the one is Curlin or if it's Street Sense? Does he still go because it's only one? I don't know if that makes sense to me. If he's not going in with the intention of winning, why go at all? And if he is going with the intention of winning.....and thinks his horse can beat either Curlin or Street Sense, shouldn't he feel that his horse can beat both of them since they are pretty much even? And if he feels his horse can beat them, he should feel his horse can beat Hard Spun too. So why not run if all three are there if u feel u can beat all three?

good questions!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My question is which two of the three would have to not run in order for the Belmont to be likely and which one of the three would have to skip the race in order for him to consider it strongly? Say for instance only Hard Spun goes. Does Pletcher then go in the Belmont with Rags? What if the one is Curlin or if it's Street Sense? Does he still go because it's only one? I don't know if that makes sense to me. If he's not going in with the intention of winning, why go at all? And if he is going with the intention of winning.....and thinks his horse can beat either Curlin or Street Sense, shouldn't he feel that his horse can beat both of them since they are pretty much even? And if he feels his horse can beat them, he should feel his horse can beat Hard Spun too. So why not run if all three are there if u feel u can beat all three?

What?
If all three of the top colts go, her chances of winning would absolutely be decreased. Not because one particular colt is better than her, but because it just stacks up as a much more difficult race overall. I am not saying that I agree with TP's rationale (she could win no matter who shows up), but it sounds to me like he is deciding whether or not to send her based on how tough the race comes up. That seems pretty reasonable to me.