Barbaro Update from media

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You just don't get it.

People can, and do, post suppositions. There is no difference between someone posting what they THINK might be the case with Barbaro and posting who they like in, say, the Dwyer. They are opinions. That is what gets posted in chat rooms much of the time. And, then, hopefully an interesting discussion can ensue among people with differing opinions.

The difference here is that you fly into a rage any time somebody posts something that YOU perceive as negative about Barbaro. You have wrongfully accused me of many things in this discussion and continue to hold on to the very real possibility that my SUPPOSITIONS were inaccurate as some sort of defense for your behavoir. Guess what....you are wrong. I never stated anything I said was a fact. I never claimed to speak to anyone I didn't. I very simply posted an opinion. Somehow that ended up opening up to you the possibility that I sent nasty e-mails to the connections of Barbaro.

Enjoy your stay here....I'm done.

I suggest we just agree to disagree. You have your right to your opinion and I believe people should be careful before saying a bone graft isn't taking. Either way, you are correct it is a chat site and you have your right to your opinion. I guess I was just trying to report good news and you wanted to see it another way. You have that right. For the record, I didn't say you sent negative e-mail either. I just said there are people that do it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

The main point was that the orginal post did not go into any detail. The orginal post just said that they changed the cast and he was doing great. The truth of the matter was that "for several days the horse showed a slight elevation in body temperature and was walking differently on both hind limbs." This was what made them suspect there was a problem. They took off the cast and checked it out and discovered that the horse had two broken screws that crossed the pastern bone. While it may not have been totally unexpected, I would still not characterize that as great news. Not only did they have to replace those two screws, they had to add an additional 3 screws "across the pastern joint to try and help stabilize it more." In addition, the horse has a slight infection in his foot on the other leg. So I wouldn't say that it's all good news. But overall, the horse is doing well considering the severity of his injury. As Dr. Richardson said, "Things are progressing well but he's certainly not healed yet and he's not out of the woods."
The horse still has a long way to go but overall it sounds like he is doing reasonably well.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The main point was that the orginal post did not go into any detail. The orginal post just said that they changed the cast and he was doing great. The truth of the matter was that "for several days the horse showed a slight elevation in body temperature and was walking differently on both hind limbs." This was what made them suspect there was a problem. They took off the cast and checked it out and discovered that the horse had two broken screws that crossed the pastern bone. While it may not have been totally unexpected, I would still not characterize that as great news. Not only did they have to replace those two screws, they had to add an additional 3 screws "across the pastern joint to try and help stabilize it more." In addition, the horse has a slight infection in his foot on the other leg. So I wouldn't say that it's all good news. But overall, the horse is doing well considering the severity of his injury. As Dr. Richardson said, "Things are progressing well but he's certainly not healed yet and he's not out of the woods."
The horse still has a long way to go but overall it sounds like he is doing reasonably well.

The real issue was that they had reached the 6 week point when there is evidence of healing. They got that evidence. Bad news would have been if it wasn't healing. The screw changes and additions were no big deal. Had the horse not been healing, which was a possibility, than the news would have been bad. Obviously the horse is not in the clear, but the healing process has begun, something that nobody was sure would necessarily take place.

[blackthroatedwind]

The REAL real issue is that you think there are two opinions....yours which is right and any opinion that disagrees whatsoever....which is wrong.

This is NOT how it works whether you like it or not.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The REAL real issue is that you think there are two opinions....yours which is right and any opinion that disagrees whatsoever....which is wrong.

This is NOT how it works whether you like it or not.

My opinions are usually wrong, but this isn't opinion, this is fact. The horse is healing nicely, and as the Dr. Richardson said, this is not a setback. My original post was simply that he is doing better, which for the first time the radiographs showed healing. A few people then decided it wasn't good news. Sure it might not have been all good news, but the point was he is doing better, which he is. That is a fact.

[blackthroatedwind]

It's a fact that the doctor's opinion is that he is doing better.

The point? They're all opinions, some more informed than others, and in all likelihood your " opinion " in this discussion is, in fact, more informed than most of ours. But that doesn't preclude the rest of us from having opinions.

This is a chatroom about horseracing, a business where many supposed facts are disseminated that turn out to be, to be kind, less than true. I am constantly surprised by what people accept as fact only to unsurprisingly find out were not accurate. Is this one of those cases? I don't know, I hope not, and I tend to believe that you are, for the most part, correct. I certainly want to believe you are. But, and I would guess you would really agree with this, skepticism is a positive attribute in horse racing.

I also never believed that Barbaro was suddenly thrown into grave danger....I just think this recent news is not " great " news. But, as Dr. Richardson pointed out in the very beginning, this was going to be a long process.

[somerfrost]

For Christ sake...the horse continues along the healing path and there remains reason for hope...that's really the central and only important point! The details are interesting to those of us who love this brave animal but this thread is about semantics...let it go the both of you...it's become boring!!

[Danzig]

black, you would do well to realize that it isn't so much a matter of bold being right or wrong, but of him needing to have the last word...in my OPINION.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's a fact that the doctor's opinion is that he is doing better.

The point? They're all opinions, some more informed than others, and in all likelihood your " opinion " in this discussion is, in fact, more informed than most of ours. But that doesn't preclude the rest of us from having opinions.

This is a chatroom about horseracing, a business where many supposed facts are disseminated that turn out to be, to be kind, less than true. I am constantly surprised by what people accept as fact only to unsurprisingly find out were not accurate. Is this one of those cases? I don't know, I hope not, and I tend to believe that you are, for the most part, correct. I certainly want to believe you are. But, and I would guess you would really agree with this, skepticism is a positive attribute in horse racing.

I also never believed that Barbaro was suddenly thrown into grave danger....I just think this recent news is not " great " news. But, as Dr. Richardson pointed out in the very beginning, this was going to be a long process.

Ok. I guess your spin comment bothered me, but you have every right to make your opinions known.