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[randallscott35]

They both ran terrific. End of story. It was a head bob. They are the 2 best 3yr olds. Let's hope they are around for their 5 year old season. A great race to watch.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

They both ran terrific. End of story. It was a head bob. They are the 2 best 3yr olds. Let's hope they are around for their 5 year old season. A great race to watch.

Fantastic race, I think it was a fast time as well...did I hear 1:53.1?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Fantastic race, I think it was a fast time as well...did I hear 1:53.1?

The track was fast for sure, but it was a legit time....Flying First Class going back in Cargo after that race.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

The track was fast for sure, but it was a legit time....Flying First Class going back in Cargo after that race.

Let's not forget Xchanger too. LOL

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Let's not forget Xchanger too. LOL

Well Bloodhorse has 22.82, 45.75, 1:09.80, 1:53.20, Thoroughbred Times says 1:53.40...either way a very fast race, equals stake record I think...

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well Bloodhorse has 22.82, 45.75, 1:09.80, 1:53.20, Thoroughbred Times says 1:53.40...either way a very fast race, equals stake record I think...

Yep, they set a blistering pace.

I'm still smarting over Hard Spun... Pino moved him way too soon... the colt was rating.

[pmayjr]

Another point- Borel was asked if he made his move on SS too early. He didn't IMO. Not that I think it mattered much, but Pino on Hard Spun definately did.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well Bloodhorse has 22.82, 45.75, 1:09.80, 1:53.20, Thoroughbred Times says 1:53.40...either way a very fast race, equals stake record I think...

I'm confused now. I mean they said 2/5 so Bloodhorse probably just slapped the .20 up there but was it really .40 even or was there a hundredths change in there? And that means Street Sense effectively almost got it himself and I think would've if he hadn't hung grrrr. He's tied with Louis Quatorze and Tanks Prospect if Curlin got it.

What was Secretariat's "real" time? I thought it was such that he probably would've had it but they won't credit him with the numbers due to the time malfunction.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

The track was fast for sure, but it was a legit time....Flying First Class going back in Cargo after that race.

Classic line. Hell, I'd say even that is too good for him. Greyhound anyone?

[Merlinsky]

Was this finish the result of Pino moving too soon indirectly? Street Sense got in front sooner than he might've since Hard Spun wasn't still holding on and Curlin had time to catch back up when SS hung but would that've happened had he been behind just a fraz longer?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's exactly what I saw. Going into the BC Juvenile, I wrote that I was concerned about his ability to finish as in both of his races at 8f or further, he had showd ground lost in the final eighth. In the Arlington race, he was second by a head at the 8th pole and ended up 3rd, beaten 1 3/4 lengths at the wire. The DRF comment says "no winning bid". In the Keeneland race, he had surged to the lead and led by a length at the 8th pole only to flatten out and finish 3rd, beaten 1 3/4 lengths. The DRF comment for that race says "weakened". I didn't expect that explosive late kick in the BC and didn't expect it in the Derby either.

And today, he did it again.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

And today, he did it again.

You're grasping at straws here.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

King, other than Seattleallstar you probably have one of the worst opinions in terms of horse racing on here. Please stop.

So saying he hung today is a bad opinion when most other people on here are saying the same thing and even his own jockey is saying it? U may or may not care about things I have to say on other subjects but what does that have to do with whether this opinion is right or wrong?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

King, other than Seattleallstar you probably have one of the worst opinions in terms of horse racing on here. Please stop.

so true! always good for a huge laugh. Remember how FCC was 50/50 to be in the trifecta??

[XIIPointStables]

Great race. Great win for Curlin.

Would have rather seen Calvin not turn around in shock in the final jump. God that annoyed me.

Finish.

But take nothing away from Curlin. Passes and then comes back. Just awesome.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

They both ran terrific. End of story. It was a head bob. They are the 2 best 3yr olds. Let's hope they are around for their 5 year old season. A great race to watch.

Couldn't say it any better. It was a true run race, unlike most Ky Derbies. Hats off to the connections of the top 3 finishers for having there horses ready to run back in 2 weeks. I doubt all 3 will come back for the Belmont, but we'll see.

[XIIPointStables]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

Can't say whether it made a difference.........
but Borel turning his head, to check for Curlin so late in the stretch, doesn't make sense to me.
Excellent race to watch.
I didn't watch the '89 Preakness live. So I have to compare this one to the '97 Preakness finish.
Same top 3 as Derby. Now some people should consider laying off Pletcher, since no one else has a 3yo to crack these three either.

Agreed on the head turn. In a head bob race, that could have meant the world.

Wagering wise I would not have had it either way, as I tossed HS. But I keep rewinding the DVR and that turnaround is killing me.

One one hand, a showdown in the Belmont would be a great headliner.

On the other, I'm openly rooting for a Triple Crown Winner.

Curlin was amazing. I think Borel messed up. Thats all I got.