Barbaro Update from media

Originally Posted by boldruler

I just posted that he was doing well the other day and a few people said they doubted that and this was bad news. Nothing could be more untrue. If he didn't throw in his little jab about my "questionable" or whatever word he used connection to the horse, and said his dr. knew more, I would have just said ok. There are Barbaro haters out there. I have heard about some of the sick e-mail they have gotten, but I doubt this guy was one of them. Everyone is very protective of the horse and all their horses. The medium sized operations have to be or the bigger guys will eat them up. It is a super competitive game, but I don't need to tell a guy like you that. His story about the screws was just wrong. Like I said, they thought it was likely they would have to do this all along.

One last time though, "All this surgery was done under fluoroscopic control, using little, small incisions, so it wasn't like you were opening the leg back up or anything," Richardson said. "These were done through one-centimeter incisions, so tiny incisions."

Ruler I don't know you well even though we have emailed each other but I don't think you are at all a bad guy. The person you are trying to incite is someone I have known a long time and we have never been particularly friendly but you don't have to be a friend of someone to respect them. The guy in question absolutely knows more people in this game than you could imagine. He also has a tremendous knowledge of the game and would not post something like he talked to a surgeon unless he had, hes not that type of person. Lastly, hes about the last guy in the world who would ever send anyone a hate mail over a horse. Hes about the only guy alive I know who I would say has a love of the game as much as i do that I know of. He also doesnt need me to defend him at all. The only reason I say this is that for you to continue to harp on this with him is only going to lead to long threads with unpleasant exchanges between the two of you.
Everyone wants this horse to survive and go to stud. How about letting this one go? We are all on the same side of the coin regarding this topic.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ruler I don't know you well even though we have emailed each other but I don't think you are at all a bad guy. The person you are trying to incite is someone I have known a long time and we have never been particularly friendly but you don't have to be a friend of someone to respect them. The guy in question absolutely knows more people in this game than you could imagine. He also has a tremendous knowledge of the game and would not post something like he talked to a surgeon unless he had, hes not that type of person. Lastly, hes about the last guy in the world who would ever send anyone a hate mail over a horse. Hes about the only guy alive I know who I would say has a love of the game as much as i do that I know of. He also doesnt need me to defend him at all. The only reason I say this is that for you to continue to harp on this with him is only going to lead to long threads with unpleasant exchanges between the two of you.
Everyone wants this horse to survive and go to stud. How about letting this one go? We are all on the same side of the coin regarding this topic.

His exact words
"The screws bending is a sign that the graft didn't hold and it is unlikely when they closed him up six weeks ago they expected to put in more screws. Far from impossible but not in the original plan. Like you said, it's a setback, and hopefully he will be fine. But none of this is good news nor was it planned originally. That doesn't, however, mean it's terrible news."

WRONG. Complete fabrication as the drf article said. If this guy is so connected to the sport, which he probably is, it is even worse for him to go making up stories. And I never said it was a setback either, because it wasn't.

I let it go and the funny guys kept going with their comical posts. Remember I just posted something and they started with their "I will trust what a doctor told me over vague supposed connections to the owners and spin." Just to let you know, everything I said was correct, and everything they said was incorrect. Everything. Like I said, if you are connected to the sport, you should know better to make up garbage, especially when you have no clue what is going on.

I guess it is ok for you Oracle, to take on people that are 100% incorrect, but not ok for the rest of us.

Originally Posted by boldruler

His exact words
"The screws bending is a sign that the graft didn't hold and it is unlikely when they closed him up six weeks ago they expected to put in more screws. Far from impossible but not in the original plan. Like you said, it's a setback, and hopefully he will be fine. But none of this is good news nor was it planned originally. That doesn't, however, mean it's terrible news."

WRONG. Complete fabrication as the drf article said. If this guy is so connected to the sport, which he probably is, it is even worse for him to go making up stories. And I never said it was a setback either, because it wasn't.

I let it go and the funny guys kept going with their comical posts. Remember I just posted something and they started with their "I will trust what a doctor told me over vague supposed connections to the owners and spin." Just to let you know, everything I said was correct, and everything they said was incorrect. Everything. Like I said, if you are connected to the sport, you should know better to make up garbage, especially when you have no clue what is going on.

I guess it is ok for you Oracle, to take on people that are 100% incorrect, but not ok for the rest of us.

I give up, I'm out on this topic. later.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by boldruler

His exact words
"The screws bending is a sign that the graft didn't hold and it is unlikely when they closed him up six weeks ago they expected to put in more screws. Far from impossible but not in the original plan. Like you said, it's a setback, and hopefully he will be fine. But none of this is good news nor was it planned originally. That doesn't, however, mean it's terrible news."

WRONG. Complete fabrication as the drf article said. If this guy is so connected to the sport, which he probably is, it is even worse for him to go making up stories. And I never said it was a setback either, because it wasn't.

I let it go and the funny guys kept going with their comical posts. Remember I just posted something and they started with their "I will trust what a doctor told me over vague supposed connections to the owners and spin." Just to let you know, everything I said was correct, and everything they said was incorrect. Everything. Like I said, if you are connected to the sport, you should know better to make up garbage, especially when you have no clue what is going on.

I guess it is ok for you Oracle, to take on people that are 100% incorrect, but not ok for the rest of us.

I am going to be nice, just this once with you. I NEVER stated anything as fact, see the word " sign ", and suggesting what I said was a " fabrication " is a misuse of the word and a complete misrepresentation of my post. You were completely out of line with me yesterday when you called me a liar, and you disingenuously apologized, only to start more **** in this thread.

Because you don't like what someone posts does not make it a lie, incorrect, a fabrication, or any number of things. You need to learn how to play well with others.

Think carefully before you respond. Anything that misrepresents the situation again won't be responded to by me.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am going to be nice, just this once with you. I NEVER stated anything as fact, see the word " sign ", and suggesting what I said was a " fabrication " is a misuse of the word and a complete misrepresentation of my post. You were completely out of line with me yesterday when you called me a liar, and you disingenuously apologized, only to start more **** in this thread.

Because you don't like what someone posts does not make it a lie, incorrect, a fabrication, or any number of things. You need to learn how to play well with others.

Think carefully before you respond. Anything that misrepresents the situation again won't be responded to by me.

I won't comment on anything. You know you were wrong and the drf article explained everything. Maybe your dr. friend should think twice before commenting on horse injuries he/she knows nothing about. I believe these were your words too "Screws don't get replaced and it feels like there should be a serious concern that the bone grafts didn't take. Probably the biggest concern is that opening him up again brings back the risk of infection so, in that case, he could be sadly bad to where he was weeks ago." One, you had no idea what type of surgery they did, and two, your bone graft comments are 100% inaccurate.

[Danzig]

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I let it go QUOTE]


continuing to post, or starting a new thread, on the subject is NOT letting it go.