Strong Contender

Originally Posted by Sweetness

With all due respect, he has run second twice, and the run he has been on in the last 5 years or so has been nothing short of remarkable. Pletcher's only been training for about 10 years, and I challenge you to find someone with a more influential 10 years. Look how long it took Bobby Frankel, or Neil Drysdale to get a classic win. Pletcher will get his, no doubt, but you can't say the man isn't an incredible trainer because he hasn't won a classic.

With all duer respect ...

... the guy has trained nearly a thousand of the best-bred colts in the world ... and has yet to develop even one into a champion at classic distances.

He's the King Of The MSW Sprints ... and does very well with fillies ... but he hasn't developed a colt into a champion ... and ... until he does ... he doesn't deserve to be compared with any of the really good trainers.

I can't say he isn't an incredible trainer? Yes ... I can ...

... He isn't an incredible trainer.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

With all duer respect ...

... the guy has trained nearly a thousand of the best-bred colts in the world ... and has yet to develop even one into a champion at classic distances.

He's the King Of The MSW Sprints ... and does very well with fillies ... but he hasn't developed a colt into a champion ... and ... until he does ... he doesn't deserve to be compared with any of the really good trainers.

I can't say he isn't an incredible trainer? Yes ... I can ...

... He isn't an incredible trainer.

This coming from the guy who said Mayan King, a listed stake winner at best will be HOY.

Originally Posted by Sweetness

This coming from the guy who said Mayan King, a listed stake winner at best will be HOY.

I thought you were leaving ...

... BUH-BYE !!!

[Scav]

Mayan King was pretty bold of a pick for HOY.....I applaud your insaneness....

Originally Posted by Scav

Mayan King was pretty bold of a pick for HOY.....I applaud your insaneness....

Shhhh ... you're ruining my shtik ... I don't want anyone else to know.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I thought you were leaving ...

... BUH-BYE !!!

Another intelligent answer, seems as though Todd got Left Bank to win grade 1's sprinting and going 2 turns. Pretty good stuff.

Originally Posted by Sweetness

Another intelligent answer, seems as though Todd got Left Bank to win grade 1's sprinting and going 2 turns. Pretty good stuff.

You're correct ... Left Bank was voted champion older male ... and he did win one G1 race at 9f around two turns in 24 starts.

Flower Alley also won one G1 race at 10f.

Pletcher also had a 2YO who won one G1 race around two turns.

That's it ... one 9f G1 ... one 10f G1 ... and one 2YO two-turn G1 out of several hundred well-bred colts over a ten-year period. Other trainers have done as much on a single weekend.

If that's "incredible" to you ... so be it. To me ... it isn't.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I thought you were leaving ...

... BUH-BYE !!!

LOL! Brooklyn have you met he new resident whacko yet?
Guy knows all about what goes through bafferts mind, says shug underachived, says he knows me(but he cant telll who he is for security reasons), oh yeah and hes involved in the game. tell you what if this guy is involved in the game I'm an astronaut!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL! Brooklyn have you met he new resident whacko yet?
Guy knows all about what goes through bafferts mind, says shug underachived, says he knows me(but he cant telll who he is for security reasons), oh yeah and hes involved in the game. tell you what if this guy is involved in the game I'm an astronaut!!!

And if my grandmother had wheels ... she'd be a trolley car.

Patience, my good man ... patience.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

With all duer respect ...

... the guy has trained nearly a thousand of the best-bred colts in the world ... and has yet to develop even one into a champion at classic distances.

He's the King Of The MSW Sprints ... and does very well with fillies ... but he hasn't developed a colt into a champion ... and ... until he does ... he doesn't deserve to be compared with any of the really good trainers.

I can't say he isn't an incredible trainer? Yes ... I can ...

... He isn't an incredible trainer.

Was Left Bank not champion older horse? Seemed like he did a pretty good job with him.