Another easy work for Curlin

[herkhorse]

[quote=the_fat_man]It all depends; it's relative.

Is HS gonna have everything his own way as he did in the Derby?

Just how did HS have things his own way? He set honest fractions, and held on for a game 2nd, while all the other horses that tried to go with him backed up the track.

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[quote=herkhorse]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

It all depends; it's relative.

Is HS gonna have everything his own way as he did in the Derby?

Just how did HS have things his own way? He set honest fractions, and held on for a game 2nd, while all the other horses that tried to go with him backed up the track.

yea, he ran quick, but a talented front runner left alone on the lead, well the faster they go the better in my book...there is a large gap IMO in pressured pace and fast pace, to me Hard Spun set a fast pace.....you want to see a pressured pace, and it was fast as well, watch Holy Bull in the Travers in 94', he still won.

[herkhorse]

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Originally Posted by herkhorse

yea, he ran quick, but a talented front runner left alone on the lead, well the faster they go the better in my book...there is a large gap IMO in pressured pace and fast pace, to me Hard Spun set a fast pace.....you want to see a pressured pace, and it was fast as well, watch Holy Bull in the Travers in 94', he still won.

I certainly wasn't comparing HS to Holy Bull, but the trip he got in the derby was totally earned and not because of "things going his way".

[outofthebox]

Drugs, i am in the opinion that a horse who ran in the Derby really is in no need of a breeze between the Derby and the Preakness. I may be in the minority, but if a horse is breezed at all, let it be on the slow side rather than fast.
On the handicapping aspect of the race, i will wait untill posts are drawn, and see if the track will be fast for the race. I love betting against horses who i feel benefited from great trips to easy victories. As a racing fan i wouldn't be dissapointed if SS were to win. But if i do decide to be involved in betting the race i can assure you that i would be betting against SS. I can/t say iv'e made a living off betting against impressive Derby winners, but i have had a lot of luck betting on horses who i thought were compromised in the Derby from showing their true talent.
I am always looking for the next Louise Qutorze, or Gate Dancer, Hansel, or even throwing out a bad trip like Point Given got in the Derby to making a nice score in the Preakness. I wasn't totally sold on Curlin before the Derby, not because of his number of starts, but his lack of experience in facing adversity in a race. I think he now has that experience. I will now wait for the draw of the race, get a feel of how the race may shape up, and if the odds favor a nice bet on Curlin, i will not shy away from making a wager on him based on a slow breeze between the two races...

[outofthebox]

Congrats on your pick Drugs. I didnt bet to win but played the Million p/4.

[pointman]

Congrats Drugs, your analysis was right one. What a great race.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by pointman

Congrats Drugs, your analysis was right one. What a great race.

Congrats? Let's see.... 2nd favorite in the Derby...wins the preakness at 3/1/....wow that's really stickin your neck on the line

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

Congrats on your pick Drugs. I didnt bet to win but played the Million p/4.

Thanks---the race didn't exactly go how I wanted it to early on.

I thought Hard Spun was in a little trouble because the pace was very fast, and he was denied his preferred front-running tactics---meanwhile Curlin didn't have as much seperation on Street Sense as I wanted.

I was hoping Curlin could get four or five lengths seperation---and Street Sense would make that monster far turn move to get on ever terms--and obviously Curlin would win the stretch duel.

Street Sense really ran a spectacular race---and I never was certain Curlin could re-rally to catch him until the last jump.

Let's be fair though--as fabulous as SS ran this time out--he did hang through the lane.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Thanks---the race didn't exactly go how I wanted it to early on.

I thought Hard Spun was in a little trouble because the pace was very fast, and he was denied his preferred front-running tactics---meanwhile Curlin didn't have as much seperation on Street Sense as I wanted.

I was hoping Curlin could get four or five lengths seperation---and Street Sense would make that monster far turn move to get on ever terms--and obviously Curlin would win the stretch duel.

Street Sense really ran a spectacular race---and I never was certain Curlin could re-rally to catch him until the last jump.

Let's be fair though--as fabulous as SS ran this time out--he did hang through the lane.

not to quibble. but i don't think the hangar label applies when you run a race that fast. Don't shortchange Curlin, it was a HUGE effort to catch Street Sense after he lost position to him earlier in the stretch.
You were right on Curlin etc, but the reason wasn't because Street Sense is some big hanger thats needs his rail trip. I think you were right just because Curlin was the best horse today, but only by a very late nose.