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Old 07-04-2006, 11:14 AM
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screws do get replaced if they are bent. taking into consideration the seriousness of the initial injury, the # of screws inserted, i doubt this wasn't considered a possibility. besides, those screws are holding all those pieces together until they knit together, seems you'd want to get them back together in good shape, and bent screws aren't going to help that much.

every day this horse makes it is good news. the further along he gets, the better. considering everything he's gone thru, there has to be a lot of surprise that he hadn't had setbacks before now. a setback yes, gloom and doom, no.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:21 AM
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The screws bending is a sign that the graft didn't hold and it is unlikely when they closed him up six weeks ago they expected to put in more screws. Far from impossible but not in the original plan. Like you said, it's a setback, and hopefully he will be fine. But none of this is good news nor was it planned originally. That doesn't, however, mean it's terrible news.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:27 AM
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The screws bending is a sign that the graft didn't hold and it is unlikely when they closed him up six weeks ago they expected to put in more screws. Far from impossible but not in the original plan. Like you said, it's a setback, and hopefully he will be fine. But none of this is good news nor was it planned originally. That doesn't, however, mean it's terrible news.
Wrong. Stop posting nonsense you know nothing about.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:30 AM
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Actually I had an extensive conversation with a surgeon about this before posting.

I have no idea why you jumped on earlier posters who were just stating the obvious, as I am, about yesterday's news. The additional surgery is cause for pause. That's all.

I'm sure we all wish Barbaro the best but that doesn't preclude talking about this realistically.

And it won't.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:40 AM
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Actually I had an extensive conversation with a surgeon about this before posting.

I have no idea why you jumped on earlier posters who were just stating the obvious, as I am, about yesterday's news. The additional surgery is cause for pause. That's all.

I'm sure we all wish Barbaro the best but that doesn't preclude talking about this realistically.

And it won't.
SURE YOU DID. I am sure surgeons have plenty of time to talk to you about anything, let alone other doctor's patients. Enough with your lying. Nobody believes any DVM, let alone a surgeon, which there are a handul of, is sitting around with you on a holiday weekend talking about Barbaro. Why don't I just say I talked directly to Dr. Richardson? Hilarious. I admit my conversation was with a friend that spoke with the family, in fact, my friend spoke to his father that spoke to the family, but even if I am the 3rd person down the chain it is more believable than some guy who claims a surgeon was talking to him this morning about Barbaro.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:44 AM
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SURE YOU DID. I am sure surgeons have plenty of time to talk to you about anything, let alone other doctor's patients. Enough with your lying. Nobody believes any DVM, let alone a surgeon, which there are a handul of, is sitting around with you on a holiday weekend talking about Barbaro. Why don't I just say I talked directly to Dr. Richardson? Hilarious. I admit my conversation was with a friend that spoke with the family, in fact, my friend spoke to his father that spoke to the family, but even if I am the 3rd person down the chain it is more believable than some guy who claims a surgeon was talking to him this morning about Barbaro.
Dude, you need to relax. Sorry if it upsets you that others are allowed to post opinions about this. Tough.

So, now you're a friend of a friend. That's great.

I have a LOT of friends as well. I just don't blab about it on the internet. And, frankly, you're the one turning this into an argument.

Just relax, because people have a right to post things you disagree with. And, frankly, your snide remarks claiming I lied about talking to a doctor are insulting.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:49 AM
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Dude, you need to relax. Sorry if it upsets you that others are allowed to post opinions about this. Tough.

So, now you're a friend of a friend. That's great.

I have a LOT of friends as well. I just don't blab about it on the internet. And, frankly, you're the one turning this into an argument.

Just relax, because people have a right to post things you disagree with. And, frankly, your snide remarks claiming I lied about talking to a doctor are insulting.
I have always been a friend of a friend. I have met the owners but they aren't my friend. He said they were told the horse is doing great and that the surgery was not something they were surprised by and that the horse is continuing to improve.

People can post whatever they want, but you lies about talking to a surgeon this morning border on ridiculous. Most people didn't even know about his surgery until this morning and I doubt this surgeon you talked to was just available while you were posting on some website. Hilarious. Lies on chats are expected, but that one is way out there.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:51 AM
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I'm not looking for a fight, and I'm not sure why you are making this into one, but I tell you what....the surgeon I have discussed this with, yeah I just hung up on him again ( and I never said he was a vet but we can discuss that if you REALLY want to ) will be staying with me opening week at Saratoga. You are more than welcome to get together with us and discuss this with us. That would be great. Feel free to PM me and I will tell you where to find us.
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:06 PM
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SURE YOU DID. I am sure surgeons have plenty of time to talk to you about anything, let alone other doctor's patients. Enough with your lying. Nobody believes any DVM, let alone a surgeon, which there are a handul of, is sitting around with you on a holiday weekend talking about Barbaro. Why don't I just say I talked directly to Dr. Richardson? Hilarious. I admit my conversation was with a friend that spoke with the family, in fact, my friend spoke to his father that spoke to the family, but even if I am the 3rd person down the chain it is more believable than some guy who claims a surgeon was talking to him this morning about Barbaro.
That is completely ridiculous for you to accuse the guy of lying about talking to a surgeon. It is not at all unlikely that he talked to a surgeon. Many of us talk to our vets all the time. If I was at the track this morning, I could have asked my vet about what the meaning may be have been about them giving Barbaro some new screws. He'd answer the question.
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:16 PM
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That is completely ridiculous for you to accuse the guy of lying about talking to a surgeon. It is not at all unlikely that he talked to a surgeon. Many of us talk to our vets all the time. If I was at the track this morning, I could have asked my vet about what the meaning may be have been about them giving Barbaro some new screws. He'd answer the question.
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