Overrated Jockeys

[Scav]

playing around yo.....I don't think you should disrepect jocks like that because what they do is extremely dangerous. While I have hatred towards some jocks, I still respect what they do. You stated that they are all overrated is a lack of respect for them, IMO...

[blackthroatedwind]

Who ever said I don't respect what they do? In fact, one of the people on your list of riders you like is one of my close friends. However, I believe that jockeys as a group are extremely overrated. They get way to much credit when they win and way too much blame when they lose. Their job is to not screw it up when they are supposed to win. A jockey is not measured by the handful of races he ( or she ) might win in a year due to extraspecial guile but are, in fact, measured by the number of races they screw up where they should have won. The lower the latter number the better the rider.

I honestly doubt Jerry Bailey would disagree with the previous paragraph and he was the best, and smartest, rider I have ever seen.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Who ever said I don't respect what they do? In fact, one of the people on your list of riders you like is one of my close friends. However, I believe that jockeys as a group are extremely overrated. They get way to much credit when they win and way too much blame when they lose. Their job is to not screw it up when they are supposed to win. A jockey is not measured by the handful of races he ( or she ) might win in a year due to extraspecial guile but are, in fact, measured by the number of races they screw up where they should have won. The lower the latter number the better the rider.

I honestly doubt Jerry Bailey would disagree with the previous paragraph and he was the best, and smartest, rider I have ever seen.

When said this way, I can respect your opinion. I do disagree with you though. The key to the statement is "smartest" because it takes a brain to ride.

This being said, Bailey, or any of the jocks I mentioned above aren't getting mounts because they are nice to the trainers or giving out reacharounds, they are getting mounts because of their skill and instincts.

The riders I mentioned, I know that 9 times out of 10 I will get a good ride out of them, that is all I can ask for.

[Scav]

Close to putting Jara on this list also because his recent rides have just been awesome. Better stock comes more wins, and he will be rollin in his Benz soon enough.

[blackthroatedwind]

Well, the question was " overrated jockeys ". I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is overrating the importance of riders.

Honestly, more than half the time I have no idea who is riding a horse I bet on, and have to check my paper as the horses are going into the gate ( you know, so I know what name to scream in vain after I inevitably lose ). The only riders I will not bet in NY, unless the horses are huge prices in which case I will even bet that recent absurd addition the the NY jockey colony Joel Cruz, are Diane Nelson and her male counterpart Herb Castillo.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Hopeless and full of the usual gas as always.

I suggest you look @ Joel's ride in Belmont's 7th on Monday.

BTW, look @ the mutual we took down on a 8/5 shot.

If you knew anything about race watching you would know that this was actually a situation of one horse winning because another rider blew the ride. Clearly the second place finisher, who I did not like and wasn't one of four I used on various Pick-6 tickets, was best and only an unnecessarily agressive ride cost him the win.

By the way, love how you use " we ", as though you are somehow involved with a trainer that is hard pressed to acknowledge your existance. Or, perhaps I misunderstood, and " we " was actually you and the other chalk eating weasels at OTB paying the 5% surcharge.

And, let me add, that once again if you could afford the $5 for a form you would realize it was Joel Cruz's first win in NY.

Nice hit and run....your specialty.