How to ruin a horse: Jamie Sanders Edition

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Jamie Sanders and Donnie Kelly bought a horse for 8 thousand dollars. The horse has run off 400 thousand dollars and is now a stallion prospect. What good is running in the Derby Trial? It does this horse absolutely no good to run on undercards, or overnights. Maybe you guys are missing the point. The point is to run this horse against the best, and let him get in where he fits in. Hes better than 15 horses what will go into the starting gate on Derby day. This horse has more than paid for himself, the goal is to get graded stakes wins, or places. Makes no sense to run him in any race that isnt of that kind, regardless of distance.

Jamie, the fact is he was beat a head running against a bias against the 2yo champion. He waxed Hardspun, he lost a head to Scat Daddy, exactly where does this horse belong? He belongs in any G1 race he can get into, regardless of distance, his class will carry the extra furlong.

If that came off shitty its not supposed to be.

The horse comes out and runs hard every other week. I've got no problem with that, you know I like him. But entering him in a G1 turf race for elders is just silly. He hasn't won a graded stakes yet and if they want to try him on turf the spot is the day before in the Crown Royal, which he would be very competitive in. If that goes well, continue on to the Preakness.

[The Bid]

Im not advocating any run against older horses.

Im just saying hes as good as almost any 3yo thats going to post in the Derby. They all have questions marks on distance as far as Im concerned. I would be much more comfortable betting Tberg, than Hardspun, or Scat Daddy, or most of the others for that matter. Im not saying he will win, but hes as honest as anything in there, more experienced than anything in there.

Im sure if he gets in he wont be waiting around for things to happen. He will take the race to them from jump street and they will have to come after him to win. I like horses that can dictate a race, he will be forward and running when they spring the gate.

[pmayjr]

Was Badge O' really good enough in the Mile? If I remember correctly (if I'm thinking of the right horse), he was the longest shot on the board in the BC Mile and looked utterly hopeless on paper (and even said so before the BC with people agreeing with me). I must be thinking of the wrong horse then...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Was Badge O' really good enough in the Mile? If I remember correctly (if I'm thinking of the right horse), he was the longest shot on the board in the BC Mile and looked utterly hopeless on paper (and even said so before the BC with people agreeing with me). I must be thinking of the wrong horse then...

Probably. Badge was a damn talented horse. He ended up going off at like 20-1ish, probably 8th choice? less than the winner, in fact...