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Old 04-30-2007, 06:07 PM
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SS's two impressive victories have been the result of an open rail - with 20 gunning, I'm not going to count on him getting the rail....I liked him until watching the major preps...in my opinion he has benefited from perfect trips that will simply not exist on Saturday...
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:11 PM
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SS's two impressive victories have been the result of an open rail - with 20 gunning, I'm not going to count on him getting the rail....I liked him until watching the major preps...in my opinion he has benefited from perfect trips that will simply not exist on Saturday...
In which way was the Bluegrass a perfect trip?? And the only reason the rail was open in the TB derby was because he outran the other midpack horses to get a clean crack at it.. I dont think he needs the rail anyways, we will find out saturday
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In which way was the Bluegrass a perfect trip?? And the only reason the rail was open in the TB derby was because he outran the other midpack horses to get a clean crack at it.. I dont think he needs the rail anyways, we will find out saturday
I don't think the Bluegrass was a "perfect trip." But I do think that he was clear and outside with plenty of time to assert himself as the cream of the crop.

.......He didn't.
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:19 PM
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I don't think the Bluegrass was a "perfect trip." But I do think that he was clear and outside with plenty of time to assert himself as the cream of the crop.

.......He didn't.
That race is a total TOSS because of the setup..
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:20 PM
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That race is a total TOSS because of the setup..
It might be a total toss to you, but not to me. He was even with all others and driving and didn't separate himself or win.

Dominican outran him...
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:24 PM
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It might be a total toss to you, but not to me. He was even with all others and driving and didn't separate himself or win.

Dominican outran him...
I'm not saying that he is my hosre for the derby..I like DOminican more than I like him, but to leave him off your tickets would be a mistake at this point. IMO.. I'm not trying to dissuade you, as we need the best odds possible on him..
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:32 PM
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This is sorta out of line now, but why wont they add blinkers to SS?
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:23 PM
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It might be a total toss to you, but not to me. He was even with all others and driving and didn't separate himself or win.

Dominican outran him...
Since when has a nose loss been being outrun? Just curious...

Dominican got him, but I don't think SS was cranked for the Bluegrass. Coming out of a HUGE battle with AGS, why would you want to run him as hard as you can, knowing the Derby is the true goal.

I don't know if he will win, but leaving him off all your tickets isn't a wise choise. SS will be on all my tickets.
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Since when has a nose loss, been being outrun? Just curious...
Dominican was behind him in the stretch on his outside, caught him and beat him to the wire.

He outran him to the finish line of the race.
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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Since when has a nose loss been being outrun? Just curious...
A nose loss has "being outrun" since they made the distinction between first and second money.
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It might be a total toss to you, but not to me. He was even with all others and driving and didn't separate himself or win.

Dominican outran him...
SS had 8 more lbs in a 300 yard dash after running a mile
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SS had 8 more lbs in a 300 yard dash after running a mile
I don't understand what you are saying here?
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:14 PM
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Sorry - I was not talking about the Bluegrass as he did not win, get the rail or have a perfect trip....
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SS's two impressive victories have been the result of an open rail - with 20 gunning, I'm not going to count on him getting the rail....I liked him until watching the major preps...in my opinion he has benefited from perfect trips that will simply not exist on Saturday...
You might be right about this. Maybe he does "need" the rail. At this point though, he is too scary for me to leave off, because he also might NOT be a "need-the-rail" type.
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:55 PM
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It's doubtfull he'll be on the top of any of my tickets. Can't see him catching Curlin. He won't get a dream rail trip and he didn't show much in the Bluegrass.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:53 PM
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Your tickets, would be a huge mistake IMO. I agree with the comment, Natzger will have this horse primed. But of course in this large of a field, the trip will tell the tale, this horse gets in a lane at the top of the stretch, he's got the kick to beat any of these.
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