How to ruin a horse: Jamie Sanders Edition

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Is the Southwest Stakes a race scenario that will ever be duplicated on dirt?? I'm just sick of the absolute bashing of Sanders on here. The horse is 1-1 against Hard Spun and has a 1st, 2 3rds and a 4th in 4 major preps this year and the 4th was less than a half length back. This horse is better than Sedgefield, Bwana Bull, Xchanger, Cobalt Blue, Liquidity, Storm in May, off the top of my head. Is distance a question...of course it is. I can name about 18 horses that that question applies to however. The bashing of Sanders is nonsensical at best.

I don't think anyone here is questioning that he is a solid horse at a mile. No one thinks he has any business going onto the Derby and the idea that he might go to the Woodford Reserve is laughable. He may be better than those horses but they all have more graded earnings than him. If those trainers were 2 for 86 on the year and talking about running in the Woodford Reserve if they got shut out of the Derby then they'd be getting the same treatment.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I don't think anyone here is questioning that he is a solid horse at a mile. No one thinks he has any business going onto the Derby and the idea that he might go to the Woodford Reserve is laughable. He may be better than those horses but they all have more graded earnings than him. If those trainers were 2 for 86 on the year and talking about running in the Woodford Reserve if they got shut out of the Derby then they'd be getting the same treatment.

I know nothing of Sanders...I actually never heard of her til Teuflesberg. It seems people are putting their feelings of Sanders as the main focus for what Teuflesberg should do. TEUFLESBERGS PERFORMANCES THIS YEAR WERE IN THE RIGHT SPOTS AND HAVE EMBARRASED THE HORSE ZERO. Those are the facts. Sanders may be the worst trainer on earth. I have no idea. I have not seen overwhelmingly bad performances from this horse since the BC Juvenile last year. None. So you're gonna tell me Sanders is the first trainer to take a shot with a "no chance" horse in the Derby?? Lukas has done it, Pletcher has done it, Baffert has done it, Zito has done it. This horse is better than some those guys have sent to the gate.

[Bobby Fischer]

Good horse for cheap dirt or turf or poly miles.
Not all that fast but needs to lead.
a mile or 8.5 is the limit.
Prado couldn't win with the horse in the bluegrass after getting a dream pace, a surface edge over SS and GH, and swinging out into horses paths - says the horse isn't that good. Really needs to get a nice start to succeed and usually has gate trouble so that somewhat limits this one.