Derby Wise Guy Horse

[Scav]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I think Any Given Saturday. Especially, with the positive rider change for his preferred style

exactly, this horse is going to be the same odds at Circular Quay on derby Day, whole world is all over him, has AGS even won a stakes race this year?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

exactly, this horse is going to be the same odds at Circular Quay on derby Day, whole world is all over him, has AGS even won a stakes race this year?

Not a graded, but he won the Sam Davis S. at Tampa Bay.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Not a graded, but he won the Sam Davis S. at Tampa Bay.

There you go, not even a graded winner......will be grossly overbet. Giacomo was the last non graded winner to win, after that I can't remember....

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Scav

There you go, not even a graded winner......will be grossly overbet. Giacomo was the last non graded winner to win, after that I can't remember....

Funny Cide also

all the way back to 1996 and can't find one besides those two, and probably less and less.

I don't consider it viable because of how things have changed but it is something to consider

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

There you go, not even a graded winner......will be grossly overbet. Giacomo was the last non graded winner to win, after that I can't remember....

Funny Cide.

Originally Posted by Scav

exactly, this horse is going to be the same odds at Circular Quay on derby Day, whole world is all over him, has AGS even won a stakes race this year?

What is strange about being the same odds as a horse who has not raced in 8 weeks and had an obvious change of plans due to...? someone tell me, why did Pletcher change plans. I dont remember Pletcher ever being quoted after CQ's last race saying that the plan is to give the horse 8 weeks off.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgardn

What is strange about being the same odds as a horse who has not raced in 8 weeks and had an obvious change of plans due to...? someone tell me, why did Pletcher change plans. I dont remember Pletcher ever being quoted after CQ's last race saying that the plan is to give the horse 8 weeks off.

the horse has worked perfectly the last two times, the horse is fine. he just needed time and from reports, Angel told him the horse runs best off layoffs and just get him ready.

The horse is lock city to hit the board with his turn of foot, and most likely win

Originally Posted by Scav

the horse has worked perfectly the last two times, the horse is fine. he just needed time and from reports, Angel told him the horse runs best off layoffs and just get him ready.

The horse is lock city to hit the board with his turn of foot, and most likely win

2 month layoffs?
You got him as a favorite? Holy Moses. No way Im going for 8 weeks off, Barbaro has not sunk that deep into my bones and that was 5 weeks.

[Antitrust32]

So to be a wise guy horse you are not allowed to win preps?

[Antitrust32]

If you are allowed to win preps my wise guy horse is


smack diddy (new nickname all credit goes to me!)

[hi_im_god]

we are far, far away from the title subject. just enjoy the ride.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

If you are allowed to win preps my wise guy horse is


smack diddy (new nickname all credit goes to me!)

How is he 'a wise guy'? the whole country is going to have that horse.

Definition of a 'wise guy' is someone who thinks they have more knowledge of something, and is a smart ass about it.

the horse can't be considered a public horse, which they most often do on Derby Day because everyone wants to play the wise guy horse

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So to be a wise guy horse you are not allowed to win preps?

yes, what has this horse but run a good second at Tampa Bay.

I am not saying he can't win, but he hasn't beat a race. I personally like horses that show me they can win a race, sometime in their life to bet to win

To address Pat, yes, and I am backing it up, The night before the Derby they allow pre betting and good ole Scav is going up there and putting $100 across on CQ, and putting him in all three spots of the tri with 10 horses (10x9x1,1x10x9, 10x1x9) so I am spending $570 on him alone, plus pick threes which I will play day of, and I will probably use 5 horses in the Derby with CQ being one of them. Don't care what the odds, they could be 5/1 and I would still play it

Originally Posted by Scav

yes, what has this horse but run a good second at Tampa Bay.

I am not saying he can't win, but he hasn't beat a race. I personally like horses that show me they can win a race, sometime in their life to bet to win

To address Pat, yes, and I am backing it up, The night before the Derby they allow pre betting and good ole Scav is going up there and putting $100 across on CQ, and putting him in all three spots of the tri with 10 horses (10x9x1,1x10x9, 10x1x9) so I am spending $570 on him alone, plus pick threes which I will play day of, and I will probably use 5 horses in the Derby with CQ being one of them. Don't care what the odds, they could be 5/1 and I would still play it

You sir, are a brave man.
Guess I may have to pull for him if you are going to do that.