grab some sack..a bettors opinion

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

the horse dont know the odds...fire away..and yes that play ..if hes 7/2 is good if he ....

can be tied into a exotic bet..ext 7/2 over a 4-1 ect

pick 3 6-1 over a 9-1 with your best play.. there is value witha shorter price out there ..this all depends on the card....lets go get the pick 3 and exotic bets tieing in curlin at ark derby..then we can talk about it..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

the late pick 3 payed 148.00 the pick 4 payed 1,900..yes there were a few long horses in that deal but..wide wide single two wide gets it.. i played theo the super and was thrilled it payed 396 for a buck..again if you keyed the winner ....

[skippy3481]

Thats where i think you make money on shorter priced horses. If you can find some juicy odds below you can make a great day. I hit the super in the 8th at keenland and look what it payed. With a short priced horse on top.

[pmacdaddy]

I have really started to enjoy playing the pick4 as my "action" plays most days. Instead of dumping a lot of money into exotics every race I have been trying to go through the PP's with an eye out for the 1 or maybe 2 plays to make outside the pk4.

When I can adhear to that, I find I do much better. Definitley strong guidance to focus on those plays and take your lumps when you are wrong as apposed to trying to cream every race. Something I need to remind myself often...

I am ceratinly still working on a winning strategy.

[skippy3481]

No doubt pmac. I am by no means an expert handicapper, but i learn everyday, and really i think thats probably the best foundation you can have. Lessons learned the hard way are not easily forgotten. When i first started off i played every race, all that i could find. Now, I'm down to 3 or 4 races off a card. Its really tough to stick to that and sometimes i fall off the wagon

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

No doubt pmac. I am by no means an expert handicapper, but i learn everyday, and really i think thats probably the best foundation you can have. Lessons learned the hard way are not easily forgotten. When i first started off i played every race, all that i could find. Now, I'm down to 3 or 4 races off a card. Its really tough to stick to that and sometimes i fall off the wagon

most all of us do....we think we are right all the time lol..great thread guys thanks for the input...the overlords arent getting invoved with this one but id like to hear from all of you..

[skippy3481]

Hooves when you have a strong favorite (curling for ex.) and you play the pick 4, are you typically making multiple ticket wagers with diffrent variations of horses are you more apt to play one ticket for more money?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Hooves when you have a strong favorite (curling for ex.) and you play the pick 4, are you typically making multiple ticket wagers with diffrent variations of horses are you more apt to play one ticket for more money?

ill make a multi attack... most likely.. for what i see large..... then the bomb wide ..small its like this ..

maiden spec wt,, lots of firsters and good win early breeding..then you see the t pleach that is a second starter with great works ect..so all that looking for the upset,,and the winner is the pleacher he is now 4-1...so ill try to beat him on one tick.. but ill use him in my larger less wide tix..

[skippy3481]

makes sense, i read andy's little deal about how he makes his pick 4 wagers. A very interesting subject that i know very little about.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

makes sense, i read andy's little deal about how he makes his pick 4 wagers. A very interesting subject that i know very little about.

hes the man with the plan and im sure would call me out on some points..but thats how i do it

[AeWingnut]

"you can beat a race but you can't beat the races."

I am an ok handicapper and a terrible bettor.

I can get 2 out of 3 on just about every bet there is. I get beat by 1 horse 99% of the time. The last time I was a winner was the Breeder's Cup.

The biggest bet I've made on a horse race was a $300 exacta. Didn't box it and should have.

After a few beats like that I quit loading up and just throw it around like chicken feed and hope the longest part gets there just so I can play the whole day and make it out of the OTB with my life.

I know there are people that only talk about winning and don't say anything about losing.

The most successful bettors I know fall in two categories. The everything on one horse bettor. Win or lose they are in and out the door on 1 play. The other kind are the pick 3, pick 4 and the playable pick 6 bettors. It takes a big bankroll but when they hit, it's tax form city.
I play exactas, trifectas, Superfectas and only bet WPS on horses that are 20-1 or better. I've had to sign a tax form on every wager except the pick 4 and pick 6... Mainly because I've never hit one.

Guess I should play Hooves picks
too late

[kenny p]

Hooves , This is a good thread. Im sure Im not the only one who has come home from the track with a decent profit and still feel like a loser because I didnt properly play the race I liked the most. KP