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Old 04-22-2007, 06:49 PM
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I just chose $1000 because it's an even number, and once again this is the entire day's bankroll.. so let me get this straight...are you saying that one should use his entire bankroll for the day on this one race? Or does it come out to approx $800 or $900?
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:56 PM
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im saying that you should

a. pound your best play of the day
b tie that horse in exotics
c be smart if this is your best play of the day why not take full advantage of it..no matter what the race is..the other bets are action bets..real players that do this for a living dont make action bets..they may wait in the wings till they get what they think is a play..then like sharks to blood they destroy that horse ..in the three 4 and exotics..max ing out the advantage..

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Old 04-22-2007, 07:01 PM
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This is excellent advice, and as your thread title indicates, it does take "Balls" to do it. But since my wagering is far worse than my handicapping, I think I'll give it a try
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:02 PM
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im saying that your should

a. pound your best play of the day
b tie that horse in exotics
c be smart if this is your best play of the day why not take full advantage of it..no matter what the race is..the other bets are action bets..real players that do this for a living dont make action bets..they may wait in the wings till they get what they think is a play..then like sharks to blood they destroy that horse ..in the three 4 and exotics..max ing out the advantage..
so, hooves, in the p3's and 4's you just mean to single your best play....and spread out on the other races. I tend to get caught up trying to catch prices in multi race wagers, even when I really like a horse that I could single and be fairly comfortable with.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:05 PM
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I got a bad habit of betting for action, I need to learn how to sit on it....sometimes hooves' theory doesn't necessarily cross my mind until I need a "get out." Has worked quite a few times.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:12 PM
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Excellent advice hooves. it doesnt matter if your playing for a 100 or a 1000. If its your best bet of the day, the greatest portion of your bankroll should be on it.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Excellent advice hooves. it doesnt matter if your playing for a 100 or a 1000. If its your best bet of the day, the greatest portion of your bankroll should be on it.
thats what im saying ...how many times have you pissed away cash on f around bets and then the play you like is sitting there and you go" light"
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:20 PM
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hooves, when you say best play of the day, I assume you just mean the horse you consider to be the biggest lock (most likely to win, without regard to odds). Right? Because most of time, that horse is going to be less than 3-1, maybe 5/2 or less. If that's the case, I still agree with what you're saying. 5/2 on a couple hundred is a VERY nice return. Try doing that in the stock market, it'll take you a year at the least...unless you're trading options or penny stocks on "advice."
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:23 PM
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Precisely, You start playing races where you have no real opinion just because you want some action. Which if all you want is entertainment, then by all means action bet away. But if your actually trying to make a little money, Your bankroll has to put on the horse you like the best. I find its also a good acid test. If i brought 200 with me and and i'm going to bet 150 of it on a horse, i better feel pretty strong. What it comes down to is, if you cant believe in your capping and your best bet of they day your going to lose money long-term. I'm still learning that lesson, but its gets better every day.
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:37 AM
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thats what im saying ...how many times have you pissed away cash on f around bets and then the play you like is sitting there and you go" light"
All the F*CKING TIME!!!

Good advice dude... basically better stratify your "strong" plays and your "fun" plays...
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:22 PM
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I think I know what you are saying. I've done this a million times. I'm not up in the calibar of you or some of the other guys in here, but I'm not a bad handicapper. The problem is...I'm a bad bettor. Too often I'm looking for a price. So, instead of hammering something I really like at say 2-1, 3-1, or 7/2, I'll try to beat it with something else because I don't like the price. On the other hand, I'll love a horse that's 35-1 or higher, but not have the BALLS to put it on top. It's something I'm really trying to change about my betting patterns.
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:47 PM
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I think I know what you are saying. I've done this a million times. I'm not up in the calibar of you or some of the other guys in here, but I'm not a bad handicapper. The problem is...I'm a bad bettor. Too often I'm looking for a price. So, instead of hammering something I really like at say 2-1, 3-1, or 7/2, I'll try to beat it with something else because I don't like the price. On the other hand, I'll love a horse that's 35-1 or higher, but not have the BALLS to put it on top. It's something I'm really trying to change about my betting patterns.
But, the world famous "Hanifan backwheel" has done wonders for your bankroll.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:03 PM
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I can't really argue with any of that, if you got the funds go for it! Nothing wrong with having a strong opinion on a particular race or horse, and making as many plays as you can afford around that.
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