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Old 04-18-2007, 07:22 PM
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Just goes to show...you may as well just run these races at 3f
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:23 PM
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Saratoga...Churchill take note......Poly Sucks....
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:10 PM
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Keenland was worried about the handle dropping right after they installed the poly. . . While it may have seemed like they dodged a bullet, I wouldn't be suprised if they start losing alot of business. . .
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:50 PM
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Keenland was worried about the handle dropping right after they installed the poly. . . While it may have seemed like they dodged a bullet, I wouldn't be suprised if they start losing alot of business. . .
I don't think they will lose ALOT of business because of the purses. Although, it is going to be nothing but turf horses on the grounds. It's amazing the allowance races on the poly are 80% turf horses. As Andy Beyer said 'they are penalizing horses for being fast'.
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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I don't think they will lose ALOT of business because of the purses. Although, it is going to be nothing but turf horses on the grounds. It's amazing the allowance races on the poly are 80% turf horses. As Andy Beyer said 'they are penalizing horses for being fast'.
Which is in direct conflict of the way they are breeding them. Doesn't seem to make much sense to breed for speed and then put in anti-speed tracks. But then again, this sport loves to do whatever it can to shoot itself in the foot.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:33 AM
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I It's amazing the allowance races on the poly are 80% turf horses. As Andy Beyer said 'they are penalizing horses for being fast'.
NO! they are penalizing horses for being poorly conditioned. Horses on or near the lead have run well (look at Ball Four and Silent Name) but they will wilt if they are lacking in fitness. Or can compensate by being bred to run 12f (like a turf horse).
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:34 AM
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NO! they are penalizing horses for being poorly conditioned. Horses on or near the lead have run well (look at Ball Four and Silent Name) but they will wilt if they are lacking in fitness. Or can compensate by being bred to run 12f (like a turf horse).
I don't buy that.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:00 PM
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Just my view, but Poly isn't "penalizing horses for being fast", its simply making them use their speed differently. Instead of blazing early fractions there are now blazing late fractions. Beyer complains that no speed horses can win at Keeneland while failing to point out that Keeneland's dirt course was in an opposite sense extremely unfair to closers or even stalkers most of the time and had a ridiculous rail bias in which many lesser "speed horses" beat more talented horses who happened to be closers.
Of course, I'm not a bettor really, just a fan, and it doesn't hurt my pocketbook one way or the other. So my two cents is just that...two cents.
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Old 04-19-2007, 06:40 AM
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Saratoga...Churchill take note......Poly Sucks....
It's coming to a race track near you soon. It's the future, because the owners want it.
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