BEYER: Poly's Anti-Speed Bias

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I think not many of us would want to be judged on our prowess at selecting the derby winner, the toughest race to figure out all year. Its an odd race at an odd distance, with a huge field. Its the big EVENT race of the year and no other race each year do you approach the same way you do the derby.

I don't know how bad Beyer has actually been in the derby, and it doesn't matter much to me and it doesn't even one bit cloud my opinion of him.
I do know my own derby winner selection rate, and it is frighteningly bad.

It's funny how when I was working on the trading floor I was beseiged every year by people looking for the Derby winner as though I had some sort of special knowledge about this race....the hardest race to handicap every year. But, no matter how many consecutive losers I gave them ( OK, I liked FuPeg at 2-1 ) they kept coming back for more.

I guess I should be happy they didn't care about Aqueduct and Belmont on a daily basis.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's funny how when I was working on the trading floor I was beseiged every year by people looking for the Derby winner as though I had some sort of special knowledge about this race....the hardest race to handicap every year. But, no matter how many consecutive losers I gave them ( OK, I liked FuPeg at 2-1 ) they kept coming back for more.

I guess I should be happy they didn't care about Aqueduct and Belmont on a daily basis.

In 1995 I moved out to Chicago to start trading out there. I went out drinking with some of the guys I worked with the Thurs night before the Derby. Told them I liked Thunder Gulch. Them being traders they all just blindly beach bet between 100-500 on the horse to win. The next year I had guys asking me for my opinion who I had never said a word to at work. People I NEVER had spoken to. I liked Editors Note. Now there are about 20-30 guys betting my pick. Well....Grindstone wins....who was part of the entry with Editors Note. I go into work and find some idiot copied the chart from the race and taped it to my computer screen with the words "Nice pick idiot". I found out who it was. Proceed to write on the back of the paper the definition of coupled horses and what it means when the 1 wins a race and you bet the 1a. I addressed the note "Dear Moron" and went up and handed it to him. . Apparently the guy (who I was not friends with and didnt know at all) had made a large bet on the horse and mistakenly threw out his ticket after the race (had no grasp of the Coupled Entry concept). I am sure you ran into many guys like him on the floor.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

In 1995 I moved out to Chicago to start trading out there. I went out drinking with some of the guys I worked with the Thurs night before the Derby. Told them I liked Thunder Gulch. Them being traders they all just blindly beach bet between 100-500 on the horse to win. The next year I had guys asking me for my opinion who I had never said a word to at work. People I NEVER had spoken to. I liked Editors Note. Now there are about 20-30 guys betting my pick. Well....Grindstone wins....who was part of the entry with Editors Note. I go into work and find some idiot copied the chart from the race and taped it to my computer screen with the words "Nice pick idiot". I found out who it was. Proceed to write on the back of the paper the definition of coupled horses and what it means when the 1 wins a race and you bet the 1a. I addressed the note "Dear Moron" and went up and handed it to him. . Apparently the guy (who I was not friends with and didnt know at all) had made a large bet on the horse and mistakenly threw out his ticket after the race (had no grasp of the Coupled Entry concept). I am sure you ran into many guys like him on the floor.

I was the one who pasted up "Good job...Ca-Ca for brains" after your Lousy Grades disaster.

[AeWingnut]

The wind was brutal at Keeneland. it's enough to make everyone run slower early - no matter what the are racing on.

[sumitas]

i thought it was a great race. who says every race has to be run the same...that stretch battle was riveting.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

I was the one who pasted up "Good job...Ca-Ca for brains" after your Lousy Grades disaster.

3 words for you

read em and weeep






LONE STAR SKY

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

3 words for you

read em and weeep






LONE STAR SKY

At least I haven't snuffed any jockeys in my time.



I can't wait to hear your derby DeepSix.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

At least I haven't snuffed any jockeys in my time.



I can't wait to hear your derby DeepSix.

Well it beats your pick of Storm in May. I know you sent me an email saying not to let the cat out of the bag with your pick...but it's too funny to keep to myself.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I got that email as well, thank you for posting this because I didn't know how much longer I could keep the secret.

He likes him to win the Derby? Hey... stranger things have happened.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I got that email as well, thank you for posting this because I didn't know how much longer I could keep the secret.

No problem. I think Letterman is gonna mention Morty's pick in his monologue tonight. It's that damn funny.