Real Derby Contenders

[MarkyD]

I don't post here much, but I guess it's called Derby trail so it's time to stick your nose in.

I take my contenders and then look at their running styles. I then try and see how the race will unfold based on what type of horses are going. I feel like the big guns are closers this year. CQ, SS, GH. However I fear the fact that you will have those three off pace, with Tiago somewhere in there, when they decide to make their moves I fear them getting caught up with eachother. If the rail does not open up for one of them, then wide they go. So I am dropping the closers this year because I fear the horse I pick might be the one getting jammed/caght. At this point, NoBiz will be my pick. He will be up close, and he has somewhat of a push button around the turn. I fear his strech run, and he might get caught, but at least I know around the turn he will be there and that is good enough for me. I just want my pick to be in the race and have a shot, and I am positive he will be up with the leaders around the turn.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by MarkyD

I don't post here much, but I guess it's called Derby trail so it's time to stick your nose in.

I take my contenders and then look at their running styles. I then try and see how the race will unfold based on what type of horses are going. I feel like the big guns are closers this year. CQ, SS, GH. However I fear the fact that you will have those three off pace, with Tiago somewhere in there, when they decide to make their moves I fear them getting caught up with eachother. If the rail does not open up for one of them, then wide they go. So I am dropping the closers this year because I fear the horse I pick might be the one getting jammed/caght. At this point, NoBiz will be my pick. He will be up close, and he has somewhat of a push button around the turn. I fear his strech run, and he might get caught, but at least I know around the turn he will be there and that is good enough for me. I just want my pick to be in the race and have a shot, and I am positive he will be up with the leaders around the turn.

nobiz is 100% my bet, its been like that since last year for me, but if its not nobiz i think it will be one of the other horses i mentioned.

[miraja2]

Only a few old-timers from the "old board" will know what I am talking about here but.....
The speculation about Derby horses can end NOW!! I have this great handicapping software that has made me trillions of dollars over the years and I have used it to determine the winner of the 2007 Kentucky Derby.
That winner is.......CONGAREE!!!!

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Only a few old-timers from the "old board" will know what I am talking about here but.....
The speculation about Derby horses can end NOW!! I have this great handicapping software that has made me trillions of dollars over the years and I have used it to determine the winner of the 2007 Kentucky Derby.
That winner is.......CONGAREE!!!!

Are we going to have the fortune teller again this year? What color is the saddle cloth and does the winners name have a geometric shape to it?

It's never to soon to look to the stars for the winner.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Are we going to have the fortune teller again this year? What color is the saddle cloth and does the winners name have a geometric shape to it?

It's never to soon to look to the stars for the winner.

That was Euro that knew of that lady... don't think he's on here anymore. Drat!

P.S.

The winner of the derby is coming out of the 9 hole.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That was Euro that knew of that lady... don't think he's on here anymore. Drat!

P.S.

The winner of the derby is coming out of the 9 hole.

you are right. I will consult the old board and see if he's still in the loop. I have a friend that is into all that. She made me laugh when we were at the track and I asked her what her lucky # was? She paused and said she never asked.

[Left Bank]

Here is something to chew on.These are the real Derby contenders.
Cowtown cat:Has raced on 5 different tracks,ALL DIRT,won at 5.5f,6.5f,1 1/6,1 1/8.Beyers just keep going up in every race he won.
No Biz: Because PG 1985 likes him.Most likely the pace for the race.
Street Sense:Owns the highest Beyer,And the horse to beat.
And last but not least and you all are gonna crap your pants if you know me...............
Notional:This is the only California horse who has a shot.Ran 105 as a maiden,and ran a great race at GP in his first off the layoff.This is the horse who has the best chance to run them down.
Honorable Mention goes to Hard Spun.
These are MY contenders.

[peetsa]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Here is something to chew on.These are the real Derby contenders.
Cowtown cat:Has raced on 5 different tracks,ALL DIRT,won at 5.5f,6.5f,1 1/6,1 1/8.Beyers just keep going up in every race he won.
No Biz: Because PG 1985 likes him.Most likely the pace for the race.
Street Sense:Owns the highest Beyer,And the horse to beat.
And last but not least and you all are gonna crap your pants if you know me...............
Notional:This is the only California horse who has a shot.Ran 105 as a maiden,and ran a great race at GP in his first off the layoff.This is the horse who has the best chance to run them down.
Honorable Mention goes to Hard Spun.
These are MY contenders.

I've always said that there is only 1 handcapper in the world better than Andy Beyer, and that would be everyone who looks at a racing form!!!

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Here is something to chew on.These are the real Derby contenders.
Cowtown cat:Has raced on 5 different tracks,ALL DIRT,won at 5.5f,6.5f,1 1/6,1 1/8.Beyers just keep going up in every race he won.
No Biz: Because PG 1985 likes him.Most likely the pace for the race.
Street Sense:Owns the highest Beyer,And the horse to beat.
And last but not least and you all are gonna crap your pants if you know me...............
Notional:This is the only California horse who has a shot.Ran 105 as a maiden,and ran a great race at GP in his first off the layoff.This is the horse who has the best chance to run them down.
Honorable Mention goes to Hard Spun.
These are MY contenders.

I don't think you will see alot from any horse that has raced this winter in California. Baffert's gone quiet and O'neil horses are a cut below. Notional is to slow and Great Hunter won't have a polytrack in Kuntucky. Tioga gets alot of talk after his last race (his final quarter was the best of the 3yo out west) but he lacks real racing experiance.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That was Euro that knew of that lady... don't think he's on here anymore. Drat!

P.S.

The winner of the derby is coming out of the 9 hole.

Don't kid yourself....the person known as "eurobounce" still posts here, but under a new name.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Don't kid yourself....the person known as "eurobounce" still posts here, but under a new name.

Well tell him to come out from under his rock and give us the psychic's winner! LOL

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That was Euro that knew of that lady... don't think he's on here anymore. Drat!

P.S.

The winner of the derby is coming out of the 9 hole.

He's here, look no further than Whodey, that is 100% without a doubt Euro. He was even braggin on the ESPN board the he would get back here eventually and he did.

[MarkyD]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Are we going to have the fortune teller again this year? What color is the saddle cloth and does the winners name have a geometric shape to it?

It's never to soon to look to the stars for the winner.

I remember that from last year. I remember the poster said she saw the winner and had something to do with red. Then someone came up that it was Barbaor because La Vile Rouge=Red. Can't wait for her pick again.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Only a few old-timers from the "old board" will know what I am talking about here but.....
The speculation about Derby horses can end NOW!! I have this great handicapping software that has made me trillions of dollars over the years and I have used it to determine the winner of the 2007 Kentucky Derby.
That winner is.......CONGAREE!!!!

LMAO!!

ah, thanks for the trip down memory lane!!

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Only a few old-timers from the "old board" will know what I am talking about here but.....
The speculation about Derby horses can end NOW!! I have this great handicapping software that has made me trillions of dollars over the years and I have used it to determine the winner of the 2007 Kentucky Derby.
That winner is.......CONGAREE!!!!

lmao, oh wow that brought back memories. Thanks.

There's 8 pages on this thread so I haven't gotten all the way through but I was just thinking about how interesting it is that the top 2yos are by and large still in one piece, talented, and competitive at age 3. I was looking at the horses that are off the trail and most of them weren't at the level of Street Sense, Nobiz, Scat Daddy, Circular Quay, Great Hunter, etc. as 2yos. The ones that dropped off, for the most part, just had promise but fulfillment was still relatively yet to come. I mean am I imagining things that this group seems to've held up better from age 2 to 3 than usual?

[horseofcourse]

I don't think there has been a real standout performance this year. It would be hard for me to discount any of these horses...

Street Sense
Great Hunter
Scat Daddy
Nobiz Like Shobiz
Curlin
Tiago
Hard Spun
Circular Quay
Notional
Any Given Saturday
Cowtown Cat

and to a lesser extent even horses like

Dominican
Officer Rocket
Deadly Dealer

...dependant on what they do tomorrow.

I have no clue at this point. It has been a pretty non-descript Derby trail to this pont for me. Nothing stands out. If Street Sense or Great Hunter or Curlin run a big one tomorrow, they may stand out as that is the last big prep day.