Sumwon 'live'

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

were you around that horse everyday jamie taking care of it? how do you know if the horse didnt have issues even be it small ones, with a ankle, hocks, stifels, back, shoulder, etc etc etc?

I was

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I was

and that horse never had a single issue come up, maintenance never had to be done on the horse? obviously chuck you train and your knowledge far exceeds mine and basically anybody elses here when it comes to horse care but im interested how many horses have you trained that ran hard and actually made a profit for their owners on the track that didnt have some type of issue?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

and that horse never had a single issue come up, maintenance never had to be done on the horse? obviously chuck you train and your knowledge far exceeds mine and basically anybody elses here when it comes to horse care but im interested how many horses have you trained that ran hard and actually made a profit for their owners on the track that didnt have some type of issue?

Of course every horse has an issue of some sort just as every athlete that competes in any sport has aches and pains. And the good horses have the same problems as the lesser horses. But what the issues are and how the trainer and horse deal with them varies greatly. Sumwonlovesyou is not without her little issues but they are far from major and she would be considered a sound horse. The one thing I learned a long time ago was that if you are going to have any success in most things in life you cant panic at the first sign of trouble. I have had horses run far worse then we did yesterday that came back and ran just fine. We know that she can compete at the 20 level on the dirt and poly. What we want to find out is what else she can do. We can always drop her in class or shorten her up.

Deil his Due was a freakin iron horse

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course every horse has an issue of some sort just as every athlete that competes in any sport has aches and pains. And the good horses have the same problems as the lesser horses. But what the issues are and how the trainer and horse deal with them varies greatly. Sumwonlovesyou is not without her little issues but they are far from major and she would be considered a sound horse. The one thing I learned a long time ago was that if you are going to have any success in most things in life you cant panic at the first sign of trouble. I have had horses run far worse then we did yesterday that came back and ran just fine. We know that she can compete at the 20 level on the dirt and poly. What we want to find out is what else she can do. We can always drop her in class or shorten her up.

Deil his Due was a freakin iron horse

nice post and i agree with what you say, if you start panicking and constantly second guessing it'll affect your performance. you took a shot a legitimate one yesterday and theres nothing wrong with that at all.........you dont know till you try. some people tho in this game as you know just get way too greedy!


a funny story in a way but not so funny for the horse. we gotta filly from some owners who we had to take to GLD just to break the horses N2L for a nickel. we had to twist their arm just to run her there to get them some money since she wasnt much. well she had no turf pedigree whatsoever but the owners insisted she did and the grass would move her up greatly so she was entered in a 25,000 n3l on the grass this fall here and she was eased and literally beaten 45+ lengths. we wanted to take her back up to gld to win her non 3 for a nickel insteada running in that spot, win it and find her a home to try and save the owners some money. well after the turf disaster we got her back up to gld for the non 3 and she finished 5th@4-5 and the owners got zilch insteada getting close to 4k which woulda payed 3 months of barn fee's for them

[phystech]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

a funny story in a way but not so funny for the horse. we gotta filly from some owners who we had to take to GLD just to break the horses N2L for a nickel. we had to twist their arm just to run her there to get them some money since she wasnt much. well she had no turf pedigree whatsoever but the owners insisted she did and the grass would move her up greatly so she was entered in a 25,000 n3l on the grass this fall here and she was eased and literally beaten 45+ lengths. we wanted to take her back up to gld to win her non 3 for a nickel insteada running in that spot, win it and find her a home to try and save the owners some money. well after the turf disaster we got her back up to gld for the non 3 and she finished 5th@4-5 and the owners got zilch insteada getting close to 4k which woulda payed 3 months of barn fee's for them

Nice story, thanks for sharing it. But for every story you can tell about something like what you described, I can tell you two more about just the opposite happening. And put all together, they are stories that don't amount to a hill of beans about the placement of a horse. Some things work, other don't. You move on and try something else.

I don't have much patience for Monday Morning Quarterbacks or second guessers after the fact so I'll refrain from going down a road I shouldn't with you.....

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by phystech

Nice story, thanks for sharing it. But for every story you can tell about something like what you described, I can tell you two more about just the opposite happening. And put all together, they are stories that don't amount to a hill of beans about the placement of a horse. Some things work, other don't. You move on and try something else.

I don't have much patience for Monday Morning Quarterbacks or second guessers after the fact so I'll refrain from going down a road I shouldn't with you.....

nice story by you, thanks for sharing it!for every 2 you describe that do work i can tell you 20 that dont. LMFAO go down any road you choose with me. ive been a active owner for over the past 2 years straight, and was a owner of a horse a few years prior to. being in my late 20's id say owning 3 horses already isnt too bad considering its my own hard earned money that i invested.


i have no clue who you are so im interested in hearing some of your background in the game. by the way search through previous threads about the filly and read my initial thoughts when they purchased her before she ever set foot on the racetrack for the dee-tee partnership and maybe youll see im not playing"monday morning qb" as you say

[phystech]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

i have no clue who you are so im interested in hearing some of your background in the game.

Send me a PM - I don't need to bore everyone with my personal history....

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

nice story by you, thanks for sharing it!for every 2 you describe that do work i can tell you 20 that dont. LMFAO go down any road you choose with me. ive been a active owner for over the past 2 years straight, and was a owner of a horse a few years prior to. being in my late 20's id say owning 3 horses already isnt too bad considering its my own hard earned money that i invested.


i have no clue who you are so im interested in hearing some of your background in the game. by the way search through previous threads about the filly and read my initial thoughts when they purchased her before she ever set foot on the racetrack for the dee-tee partnership and maybe youll see im not playing"monday morning qb" as you say

You've made your point Playa. Over and over again.

I'll take Chuck's training experience over your "2 years straight" of ownership any time.

I've been an Owner for more than "2 years straight" and I know enough to trust Chuck and Steve to do what is right by the horse.