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Old 06-29-2006, 03:29 PM
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He left NY because Rathor smoked him in his last race. You can't lose allowance races and be HOY.

After thinking about it, HOY will go to Bernardini, Barbaro, Lava Man or Flower Alley. Can't see anyone else with a shot.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:18 AM
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He left NY because Rathor smoked him in his last race. You can't lose allowance races and be HOY.

After thinking about it, HOY will go to Bernardini, Barbaro, Lava Man or Flower Alley. Can't see anyone else with a shot.
Any talk about HOY has gotta have Surf Cat in the mix. The only thing holding this horse back is not shipping out of Calif.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:38 AM
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You can't lose allowance races and be HOY.
Tell that to ... Whirlaway, Armed, Capot, Counterpoint, One Count, Kelso, Roman Brother, Arts And Letters, Personality, Secretariat, Conquistador Cielo, and Charismatic ...

... all of whom lost allowance races ... or even maiden races ... during their Horse-Of-The-Year campaigns.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:10 PM
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Still ignoring me, eh, Bold??
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:33 PM
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I just saw the past performances for this race ...

... and Mayan King has the highest Beyer rating ... tied with Master Command ... so ...

... where is all this skepticism coming from?

Also ... I didn't realize that Prairie Meadows racing is at night. Yikes! It'll be midnight in New York by the time this race is run. Shipping ... post 12 ...screws in the ankle ... no decent Italian food ... and now a midnight post time ... Mayan King will have to be outstanding to overcome all this ...

... but fortunately ... he is.
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:53 PM
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Yeah but can he beat Three Hour Nap?
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:56 PM
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I didn't realize that Prairie Meadows racing is at night. Yikes! It'll be midnight in New York by the time this race is run. Shipping ... post 12 ...screws in the ankle ... no decent Italian food

BB,

I should have let Contessa know... "Sam and Gabe's".. A very good Italian Steakhouse in Des Moines. Kind of a Gene and Georgetti's (Chicago)..

You've likely not been to Des Moines.. You'd be very surprised. It's a pretty sophisticated town.. A small version of Kansas City basically.
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Old 07-01-2006, 06:09 PM
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Does the fact that Rathor and Noble Causeway were totally buried in the Suburban make any difference to your analysis of this race?
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Old 07-01-2006, 06:38 PM
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I could swear Bold is ignorning me.............
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:24 PM
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Does the fact that Rathor and Noble Causeway were totally buried in the Suburban make any difference to your analysis of this race?
No ... because neither is a 10f horse.

Both would have been competitive at 8f ... possibly with Rathor defeating Invasor ... but 10f is way beyond their scopes.

On the other hand ... Mayan King is a true classic distance horse ... and when he's had a couple of graded-stakes under his belt ... and stays sound d.v. ... I think he can handle Invasor at 10f.
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Old 07-01-2006, 06:48 PM
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BB,

I should have let Contessa know... "Sam and Gabe's".. A very good Italian Steakhouse in Des Moines. Kind of a Gene and Georgetti's (Chicago)..

You've likely not been to Des Moines.. You'd be very surprised. It's a pretty sophisticated town.. A small version of Kansas City basically.
Were you being sarcastic? Being a small version of Kansas City does not make you a sophisticated town. Kansas City is about as sophisticated as a 3-legged goat.
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Old 07-01-2006, 06:55 PM
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Rathor sure didn't flatter Mayan King in the Suburban, buit this is an easier group and I'm still going to go with Mayan King at 10-1 or better...he is the value here....Rathor didn't enjoy a good trip either....what the hell was he doing towards the rear in a race with a slow pace...weird....he certainly wasn't ready for a top effort today if he was that disinterested early on in the race.....I went with Dutrow and he just grinded along...Invasor was the best, hands down...
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Old 07-01-2006, 06:56 PM
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Were you being sarcastic? Being a small version of Kansas City does not make you a sophisticated town. Kansas City is about as sophisticated as a 3-legged goat.

You can't know Kansas City that well to say that Mira.. I lived in Kansas City for 2 years.. Worked on and off in Chicago since 1983.. I'll give you Chicago over KC downtown, etc.. But beyond the "city", I'll take KC (The Plaza, et al) and its' 'livableness' over "Chicagoland" any time... And Des Moines is a spotlessly clean, friendly, wealthy small city...
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:20 PM
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BB,

I should have let Contessa know... "Sam and Gabe's".. A very good Italian Steakhouse in Des Moines. Kind of a Gene and Georgetti's (Chicago)..

You've likely not been to Des Moines.. You'd be very surprised. It's a pretty sophisticated town.. A small version of Kansas City basically.
I travelled frequently to Nevada, Iowa ... just outside Ames ... in the early 1970's.

They were in-and-out business trips ... buzzing through the Des Moines airport many times ... but never saw the town.

I advised Gary to pack his own pasta and biscotti ... and I wouldn't be surprised if he did!

After seeing today's Suburban ... I think Gary made a mistake by not staying home. But the ladies in Iowa are probably thrilled to have Keith Partridge visit them.
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