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Old 04-09-2007, 11:39 PM
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Old habits are hard to kick when all the race day memory stimulation hits home in that equine head. I hope no one strokes out if she runs and goes right to the lead thinking she is going to win. This would not suprise me. Waddya think C.Simon? Really gonna try and hold her back or kinda let her decide?
I'm too heavy to ride
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:40 PM
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Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:46 PM
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Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.
Man I thought we got a weight break... and then the bet comes along and added weight. Damn the luck.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:51 PM
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Man I thought we got a weight break... and then the bet comes along and added weight. Damn the luck.
Can you believe it?
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:53 PM
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Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.
its ok, im a good luck charm, trust me on this one, i have never had a 30-1 shot in my life and i already have one this week in Tiago, im feeling another one in Sumwonlovesyou...... just have some faith
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:56 PM
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Old 04-10-2007, 05:24 AM
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:37 AM
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Best of luck to you all tomorrow...may she get a good clean trip and show the class of her bloodlines..
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:56 AM
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In addition to the excitment of the race tomorrow, I'm looking forward to watching the opening tote action to see how far from that 30-1 M/L Sumwon drops......

I was in a partnership about 10 years ago and it too was internet based with over 70 members from across the country. We had claimed a horse and first time out for us he ran in a race he simply didn't belong in. 25-1 M/L against a bunch of tough horses and he probably deserved 50-1.

Opening tick he dropped to 1/5. We were in the 7th race and everyone must have made their bets as soon as they arrived at the track earlier in the day.

I don't know if we can damage the Keeneland opening pool like that but I'm guessing 5/1, or lower, first tick.......
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:44 PM
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I'm too heavy to ride
Ya mean there is not gonna be a big huddle with every member on this site giving the jock instructions? ANd you gotta be quick enough to give the jock a leg up since you have decided not to ride, so I imagine you will be in the huddle.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:50 PM
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Ya mean there is not gonna be a big huddle with every member on this site giving the jock instructions? ANd you gotta be quick enough to give the jock a leg up since you have decided not to ride, so I imagine you will be in the huddle.
I rarely give detailed instructions and if I do tell the jock something it is usually in the morning before the races. Not that they listen very much anyway.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:24 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
She's actually not that outclassed... JMO.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:59 AM
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Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:22 PM
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Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.
I was just mulling over the race with the DRF and TGs, and she certainly seems up against it in here. Though, it sounded like there's room for improvement given the state Chuck said she was in when he got her. Sounded like she had some bad habits and was a little tough to manage. With some improvement, she still seems in over her head here, but I think it might not be as bad as it looks on paper potentially.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:34 PM
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No doubt Brian, she will be an underdog and is up against it.
When you have been running in mid level claimers and you move up to a Kee allowance, that is heady stuff. But I think it is encouraging that after the maiden win she moved up in price, ran against unrestricted claimers (not N2L), and stretched out, and finished second well clear of the third place horse after setting the fractions. I think she has shown a bit of talent, and the class test is warranted.

Also, I just think its a great venue to debut the partnership.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:46 AM
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I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.
Just as a quick question: are you going to make a fifth remark about the spotting of Sumwonlovesyou in this particular race, or is four enough?

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Old 04-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

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Old 04-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Posted this on the "Sumwon Live" thread but thought I'd add it hear as well..


Back from dinner with Chuck and Paula (wife).. What a long, fun day..!

Hope all enjoyed this first experience as the Dee Tee Partners, and everyone here really, participated in what I believe was a tremendous accomplishment. In her first start in ALW company; her first start on grass; and first start in 90 days, Sumwon was as over-her-head as thought, and perhaps short for the 8.5 journey.. No matter. Even with a last place effort, the pleasure in bringing together so many people who had never before been involved in horse ownership was overwhelming.

The objective of the Dee Tee Stable was to promote horse ownership and racetrack comraderie, and today was an undeniable success. At least 16 partners were in attendence at Keeneland, and I think they had a great time. And I can see that everyone that followed the day here, whether in DT or not, were equally excited. The kind words from everyone here is greatly appreciated, and I'm sure I speak for Chuck when I say that it's been our pleasure getting this undertaking off the ground. It's really those that inspired the concept and got involved that made it happen. And this was only the next step in the process.

Sumwon exited the race tired, indicating she needed more work yet, but scoped clean and snapped back well after cooling out. This race will do a lot for her fitness, and as mentioned earlier in the thread, will likely run back on Sunday, April 29, Opening Day at Churchill. in a 1 mile (dirt) $50,000 claimer.

More from Chuck later I'm sure.. and from me as well. Back in Florida tomorrow and will catch up soon as I can.

Thanks to all Derby Trailers for making this a wonderful day...
Thanks again Steve for everything!
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:27 AM
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It was a great day indeed. The experience of seeing "sumwon" saddled and running in a race at KEE was unbelievable for me. I hope all the partners were as pumped as I was. We knew she was in tough, but I'm very happy she came back good. It was bad luck to draw into the flight with Christies Treasure. The other flight (7th race) went the 8.5 fur. a full 4 seconds slower than "sumwon's" race. I'm sure the slower fractions would have helped "sumwon" have a little more gas in the tank down the stretch. Hopefully she gets in at CD on the 29th and we can have all this fun over again. Thx to Steve, Chuck and all the crew
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