Don Imus and Rutgers Women

[golfer]

Phil Mushnick of the NY Post writes about this this morning. He's been on the Imus case for years.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04092007...ick.htm?page=0

[Downthestretch55]

Interesting...how this thread proved something.
When it started, someone said to not take offense.
Then later, when the same someone thought I was taking a shot at him, he took offense (nevermind the unconnected name-calling). Then to defense mode. Yada yada yada.
It only proved my point. Go back and reread this thread from the first page and you might see for yourself.
Now, back to Imus...he'll be on Sharpton's radio show. He also wants to meet the Rutgers Women's BB team to apologize "face to face".
My best guess is that if he had the opportunity to take back his words, he would. Unfortunately for him, it might be too late.
Racism and sexism are not going to go unnoticed, and certainly not unchallenged.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/sleza...arol08.article

[byalip]

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

[byalip]

One more thing...

Did you know that one of the women Imus insulted has a straight 4.0 average and another has a triple major? To reduce these scholar-athletes to a racist stereotype simply for entertainment is reprehensible.

I'd like to hear Imus say what he said to these girls' fathers and see what reaction he gets. Do you honestly think they'd find it funny?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

One more thing...

Did you know that one of the women Imus insulted has a straight 4.0 average and another has a triple major? To reduce these scholar-athletes to a racist stereotype simply for entertainment is reprehensible.

I'd like to hear Imus say what he said to these girls' fathers and see what reaction he gets. Do you honestly think they'd find it funny?

OOOOOOOOOO

[byalip]

You knew I ride into town sooner or later, didn't you?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

You knew I ride into town sooner or later, didn't you?

Yer sure no one to mess with.


Pay no never mind to ClownTheRetch.



He ain't worth the paperwork.

[Grits]

The NYPost article is a very good one. And Byalip is right here, in every sense of the word. And so is DowntheStretch who has fought this one.

WHY get offended? My question is along the lines of WHY NOT, if I was the parent of one of these young women?

This man is screwed, and he knows it. Like ALL shock radio, and most talking heads, he's nothing beyond his own mouthpiece. Just like Stern, Limbaugh, et al.

When anyone feels they can only elevate themselves at the expense of others, sooner or later, they get their comeuppance. Imus has done this for sometime.

He's simply an old, doddering, man.

[byalip]

Nicely put, GRITS.

What's really sad is that the Imus Ranch is a terrific charity and the Imus Greening products, which I use, are also a good and important product.

Both will suffer because of this incident. That's what racism does and that's the unfortunate price....the innocent and good suffer.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by byalip

One more thing...

Did you know that one of the women Imus insulted has a straight 4.0 average and another has a triple major? To reduce these scholar-athletes to a racist stereotype simply for entertainment is reprehensible.

I'd like to hear Imus say what he said to these girls' fathers and see what reaction he gets. Do you honestly think they'd find it funny?

Please. Do you think that future employers will use Imus comments to some how discriminate against these women? How is it tangibly harmful to these people? Get over it. Stop being so serious. Have the Washington Redskins really harmed Native Americans? Was any one person singled out and ridiculed? It was a joke, a bad one but that's life.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Was any one person singled out and ridiculed? It was a joke, a bad one but that's life.

Cannon, I'm not sure whether you read the NYPost article, the NYTimes update with the interview this afternoon between Rev.Al Sharpton and Don Imus, but this is a very REAL concern for a many, many people including MSNBC and NBC, and CBS Radio the owners of Imus's WFAN.

In other words, I believe this is more of a problem than simplifying it as "a bad joke and that's life."

This isn't about political correctness, nor.....who does it harm?

Obviously, its harming a great number of people, not the least of which should be, and is Don Imus.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Grits

Cannon, I'm not sure whether you read the NYPost article, the NYTimes update with the interview this afternoon between Rev.Al Sharpton and Don Imus, but this is a very REAL concern for a many, many people including MSNBC and NBC, and CBS Radio the owners of Imus's WFAN.

In other words, I believe this is more of a problem than simplifying it as "a bad joke and that's life."

This isn't about political correctness, nor.....who does it harm?

Obviously, its harming a great number of people, not the least of which should be, and is Don Imus.

Anna Nicole was a big story too. Dont confuse a "big" story with an important story. Imus is a guy who has taken shots and pissed off literally thousands of people. He is a big name. His name gives this story legs, period. That does not make it right. If jj graci had said the same thing on ATRAB would there be the same outrage? Of course not. And if this is not about political correctness then what is it about?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Isn't this racist as well? Just because he is hispanic, we're gonna ask, even if joking, whether he is an illegal immigrant?

Shut up, you phucking racist.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

OOOOOOOOOO

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

Byalip,
Pay that other one no mind (how appropriate )
Here's more fire...right back at Imus.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/50351/#more

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by byalip

I'm really outraged by Imus and sick of slick racist innuendo.

I'm also sick of BET and WB giving airtime to videos, music and tv shows that have black kids calling one another ho's and ni**as. These dumb kids are basically cr*pping on 300 years of black struggle in the USA to gain respect.

What they've done is made these words and ideas mainstream. Now every white kid--or radio host, like Imus--is using those words to appear cool.

Let's be honest--it's one thing to use a slur within the community, be it black, jewish, polish or whatever--but you are really crossing way over the line to intended insult and racism when you are not part of that group.

I disagree. I don't think it's right to slur those kinds of words PERIOD. I don't care if you're in that 'group' or not.

[byalip]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I disagree. I don't think it's right to slur those kinds of words PERIOD. I don't care if you're in that 'group' or not.

Maybe I didn't make myself entirely clear. I AGREE with you that it's not right to use those words either within or outside the community. The little experiment with making them mainstream to kind of take the sting out of the original meaning just hasn't worked. They've retained their original ugliness.

I was trying to explain that anyone from outside the community is really getting into very deep trouble.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by byalip

Maybe I didn't make myself entirely clear. I AGREE with you that it's not right to use those words either within or outside the community. The little experiment with making them mainstream to kind of take the sting out of the original meaning just hasn't worked. They've retained their original ugliness.

I was trying to explain that anyone from outside the community is really getting into very deep trouble.

K, sorry for misunderstanding. It just stinks to see members from a certain race slurring words like 'nigg*r' and it's OK, but if someone from outside that race says the words, that particular race is rushing to proclaim the other person as a racist. It's so much easier just avoiding the term all together. It's a crying shame we can't all just get along and accept one another for the people that we are instead of the color of the skin.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Who gives two sh!ts about what some ol' washed-up has-been says?

I would think, mostly no one Baba. Still its wrong for these women and their families.

More importantly, how is the kidney stone, and how are you feeling? Much better, I hope.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

The stone met a laser and lost. I am on the mend and feel OK...not 100%, but much better than before and getting better every day.

Oh goodie... you'll be useful soon enough!