Been touting TIAGO

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

You guys Kill me.One of the worst fields ever,and it is won by some piece of **** MAIDEN,and all of you jump on the Derby bandwagon with him.God help you all.

well, i haven't said tiago is my derby horse, nor is he a maiden.
shame you can't enjoy a race, and say anything about the winner, without being dressed down. regardless of field strength, tiago is now a gsw-who knows where he goes from here?

[hockey2315]

He's not my top pick but I can see this horse winning the Derby with right set-up, etc. . . He's gonna be severely underlaid, however, because of the Giacomo comparisons. . .

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Giacomo was a MUCH better horse than Tiago going into the Derby---and you aren't going to get 50/1 on Tiago.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Giacomo was a MUCH better horse than Tiago going into the Derby---and you aren't going to get 50/1 on Tiago.

His 2 yo 2nd to Declans was pretty good. He got beat by a wide margn in the Felipe while.

What in the world made him more acomplished?

The 2nd to Declans Moon or his trouncing of Wilko?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Giacomo was a MUCH better horse than Tiago going into the Derby---and you aren't going to get 50/1 on Tiago.

No way....Giacomo had 1 win(maiden) going into the Derby.He had been a disappointment.This is why he paid more at Churchill than he did to people who played him in futures back in January.I think we saw this horse's best pitch yesterday,and someday we will see it again.I do believe this was his big race(like the Derby was Giacomo's big race.)Just like with Giacomo,everything came together that had to.I only saw the 2nd half of the card,but I reviewd the dirt races for the day.Tiago picked about the best day of the meet to be a rater(there haven't been many of those this meet.)Not like he was the only bomb on the dirt yesterday.I hope he does well in the Derby,but he and his half bro are not win machines.They are class horses that can win if things all line up right.I will say this though,TIAGO caught a horse who was not exactly swerving side to side.I mean Roxy ran pretty well late.

[Cajungator26]

I thought Roxy looked tired and finished second on class alone.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I thought Roxy looked tired and finished second on class alone.

i don't think he can get the 10....they had questions about him handling the distance, i wouldn't run him past 9. but it's not up to me obviously!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think he can get the 10....they had questions about him handling the distance, i wouldn't run him past 9. but it's not up to me obviously!

I think even 9 is stretching it... but you know that they'll try!

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think he can get the 10....they had questions about him handling the distance, i wouldn't run him past 9. but it's not up to me obviously!

I read in the TDN that as of right now they are planning to go straight to the preakness with king of the roxy.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Giacomo was a MUCH better horse than Tiago going into the Derby---and you aren't going to get 50/1 on Tiago.

I agree with the second part, and you know how much I agree with your opinion but I think Tiago has more natural talent then Giacomo.

You know it just dawned on me, becuase I have such a funny handle I bet you dont even know who this is.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He's not my top pick but I can see this horse winning the Derby with right set-up, etc. . . He's gonna be severely underlaid, however, because of the Giacomo comparisons. . .

Is Tiago even nominated to the Derby? The reason I ask is that in my Equibase "Road to the Triple Crown" email, they do not list him in the SA Derby report, but they do list the 2nd-6th place finishers, as well as Boutrous and Level Red.

I tried to find an online list of the 450 early nom's, but couldn't. (I did find a list of the 10 late nom's, and Tiago isn't among them.)

--Dunbar

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Is Tiago even nominated to the Derby? The reason I ask is that in my Equibase "Road to the Triple Crown" email, they do not list him in the SA Derby report, but they do list the 2nd-6th place finishers, as well as Boutrous and Level Red.

I tried to find an online list of the 450 early nom's, but couldn't. (I did find a list of the 10 late nom's, and Tiago isn't among them.)

--Dunbar

Yea, he is:

THUNDER WARNING, c, ch, Thunder Gulch-Something Else
TIAGO, c, b, Pleasant Tap-Set Them Free
TILLMAN'S LEGEND, c, ch, Orientate-La Violette

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Yea, he is:

THUNDER WARNING, c, ch, Thunder Gulch-Something Else
TIAGO, c, b, Pleasant Tap-Set Them Free
TILLMAN'S LEGEND, c, ch, Orientate-La Violette

Thanks, Brian. I wonder why Equibase left him out.

What's the link to the list of nominated horses?

--Dunbar

[Cajungator26]

My boy Delightful Kiss was nominated late.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He's not my top pick but I can see this horse winning the Derby with right set-up, etc. . . He's gonna be severely underlaid, however, because of the Giacomo comparisons. . .

You need to go lay on a couch somewhere.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, i haven't said tiago is my derby horse, nor is he a maiden.
shame you can't enjoy a race, and say anything about the winner, without being dressed down. regardless of field strength, tiago is now a gsw-who knows where he goes from here?

I predict he will be just like Lava Man,everytime he ships ,he will get his ASS HANDED TO HIM,Just like every California shipper did yesterday.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

I predict he will be just like Lava Man,everytime he ships ,he will get his ASS HANDED TO HIM,Just like every California shipper did yesterday.

it's possible...or maybe not.

it's the kentucky derby, we all know anything can happen. it doesn't matter who won what the last six months, or at two...it matters who is getting right at the right time, and can handle the distance, the trip, the track, the crowd.

it's a shame that each race can't be enjoyed for what it is, rather then all these historic races being labelled another prep. the 'best' get to run in may--but winning, or losing, the wood for example, or the bluegrass, doesn't tell you much imo about what'll happen in may!

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

I predict he will be just like Lava Man,everytime he ships ,he will get his ASS HANDED TO HIM,Just like every California shipper did yesterday.

Dont you evaluate each race as their own, are you actually trying to say california horses dont win their fair share of races when they ship?

Interesting that Ermine could not win in california then wins the apple blossom, did you step down in class?