Corinthian wont lose

[King Glorious]

I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.

[Danzig]

i think a bad start can be overused as an excuse.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think a bad start can be overused as an excuse.

Yes it can, but did you see the start? This is not one of those cases.

[King Glorious]

The start took away all win chance against a horse like Magna Graduate. It shouldn't have eliminated all chance against the rest of those horses. He should have been good enough to at least be in the picture to hit the board even with the start.

[hockey2315]

Corinthian is a much better horse than Magna Graduate with equal trips and when Corinthian's head is on straight (which happens about half the time). . .

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Corinthian is a much better horse than Magna Graduate with equal trips and when Corinthian's head is on straight (which happens about half the time). . .

thats what im trying to say,

[golfer]

When they showed the head on replay of the start, it clearly looked like the assistant starter still had a hold of Corinthian when the gate opened! This, in my opinion, is what caused him to jump. He could have been declared a non-starter. (and yes, I played him).

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Corinthian is a much better horse than Magna Graduate with equal trips and when Corinthian's head is on straight (which happens about half the time). . .

A Much Better Horse? How so exactly?

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.

ok i think you are way off, i dont think many horse's could over come the start he had, it was a horrible start he lost 7-9 lenghts, its not like it was a minor stumble, it was a disaster.

[randallscott35]

I concede that he wasn't winning after that start....But Pointgiven you are somehow assuming had the start been perfect he would've won which is a reach at best. Fact is, he isn't the soundest horse and he shouldn't have won his last start either. And he takes money like I can't believe in every race.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I concede that he wasn't winning after that start....But Pointgiven you are somehow assuming had the start been perfect he would've won which is a reach at best. Fact is, he isn't the soundest horse and he shouldn't have won his last start either. And he takes money like I can't believe in every race.

he shouldnt have won his last start ? based on what ? he did win his last and the horse he beat came back to win last week, so it was backed up, and i am assuming if he had a good start like magna graduate he would have won the race, yes i am assuming that

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

he shouldnt have won his last start ? based on what ? he did win his last and the horse he beat came back to win last week, so it was backed up, and i am assuming if he had a good start like magna graduate he would have won the race, yes i am assuming that

The horse he beat got an idiot ride which is why he lost.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.

I disagree on this - I can see if it was just a stumble or something relatively minor. However, Corinthian not only hopped in the air and lost many lengths, but he also almost went to his knees. Javier obviously wasn't going to perservere once the race was out of hand -expecting Corinthian to put in a sustained run, enough to pass by other horses, after that really dreadful beginning, is asking a lot. I just hope he came out of the race ok.