Nobiz Like Showbiz

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

I think he moves to soon in the Derby for sure. He'll be right off the lead turning for home with a false lead. Everyone will be jumping and yelling for about 3 seconds then the the top 3 finishers will blow by him at the 1/8 pole. Just my thoughts and believe you me I've been wrong before.

i disagree, i will be betting him on derby day i said it along time ago i think this years derby will be chalky.......nobiz,street sense, great hunter and hard spun..... no pletcher horse makes the triple

[Danzig]

pletcher will have enough in the field that i wouldn't go out on a limb and say he fails to hit the board. altho he has a full hand, i don't know that he'll win it--i don't like the CQ plan, and altho i understood, and still understand, AGS running back a week earlier in the wood today rather then the bluegrass, long term i don't like the change in his schedule. did he finish third today by choice, or was that all he had left?

[ateamstupid]

The figure probably won't be very fast, and the last eighth was pretty slow. I've been a Nobiz fan since the Champagne, but he's still goofy, and it's concerning in my opinion. What I don't understand is why Tagg doesn't put a full-cup blinker on the horse's right side, because every race, it's the same story: Nobiz hits midstretch and starts gazing at the Grandstand and gets focused too late. The regular blinks aren't going to stop that, and if anything, they're going to make him less relaxed earlier in the race.

I love the colt, but I wasn't terribly impressed by anything from him today other than him gamely holding Sightseeing at bay.

[Cannon Shell]

He want to be a front runner, plain to see

[blackthroatedwind]

He ran 1 1/2 seconds slower than Magna Graduate.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He ran 1 1/2 seconds slower than Magna Graduate.

thats fine, i love that.... he was alot more professional today thats all that matters, i dont want to see him run to fast now, i want him to run fast on the first saturday of may.

[golfer]

Andy, what did you think of Any Given Saturday's performance? From a sheets standpoint, he regressed off a 2 pt top in Tampa and only 3 weeks recovery time.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He ran 1 1/2 seconds slower than Magna Graduate.

I know, I know........totally different circumstances but for what it's worth, Nobiz didn't even run as fast a final time as he did when winning the Remsen last year. I will be interested in what the figures are for today. He was given a 97 Beyer for the Remsen. His career figures have been 96-92-97-98-94 and then today's race. He's a consistent horse but certainly not a brilliant one and from my perspective and seemingly from Beyer's, he hasn't progressed one bit. He's just consistently good but not anything more than that.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I know, I know........totally different circumstances but for what it's worth, Nobiz didn't even run as fast a final time as he did when winning the Remsen last year. I will be interested in what the figures are for today. He was given a 97 Beyer for the Remsen. His career figures have been 96-92-97-98-94 and then today's race. He's a consistent horse but certainly not a brilliant one and from my perspective and seemingly from Beyer's, he hasn't progressed one bit. He's just consistently good but not anything more than that.

excellent point, he is consistently a top performer...but can those consistent numbers translate to a $2 million score on Derby Day? I tend to think not.
Nobiz reminds me a little of Smarty Jones, a very hard horse to keep under wraps. Cornelio did today to an extent, but I don't trust him over the long term doing it. Stew Elliot did well in keeping Smarty under wraps, until the Belmont...

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I know, I know........totally different circumstances but for what it's worth, Nobiz didn't even run as fast a final time as he did when winning the Remsen last year. I will be interested in what the figures are for today. He was given a 97 Beyer for the Remsen. His career figures have been 96-92-97-98-94 and then today's race. He's a consistent horse but certainly not a brilliant one and from my perspective and seemingly from Beyer's, he hasn't progressed one bit. He's just consistently good but not anything more than that.

According to the DRF site Nobiz ran a 99 in the Wood on Sunday. At least it is his Lifetime Best Beyer.

The horse I like after watching the Wood is Sightseeing. In each of his last two races his BSF increased by +/- 10 points. IF he can do that again in the Derby he could be the Winner.

Maybe I'm ignorant but with respect to Magna Graduate running a faster time than Nobiz aren't older horses supposed to be faster than younger ones?