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Old 04-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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I'm not saying Nobiz isn't a fine horse. But to say he will have a stretch dual with anyone on derby day is quite a stretch. After the cotton balls maybe they should try some glasses and a fake nose...the competition will never see him coming. He may very well win the Wood - but is that saying a lot looking at the field?
Actually yes it is. He is going in against two relatively good horses for this Derby year. Any Given Saturday (some think Pletchers best), and Summer Doldrums (training well; has has shown he can run). This is a better field than the Santa Anita. Jeez it seems like there is never a good field... Based on the comments I have read, the Blue Grass will be the only good field this year, and it has not been run yet. And then the fact that it is on poly will be bashed so that we will not have had any meaningful preps. It is amazing, bashing is so easy.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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well...if nobiz doesn't start picking those feet up, the cotton balls won't be the ones he'll be most concerned about!!!
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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well...if nobiz doesn't start picking those feet up, the cotton balls won't be the ones he'll be most concerned about!!!
Are you saying he better run his balls off in the Wood??
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Old 04-07-2007, 11:30 AM
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Are you saying he better run his balls off in the Wood??
yes...or they might be 'off' some other way.
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Old 04-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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yes...or they might be 'off' some other way.
ouch, if that's not motivation I don't know what is.
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Old 04-07-2007, 11:34 AM
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ouch, if that's not motivation I don't know what is.
lol

no sense warning him-he won't hear you with the cotton in his ears.

too many intact horses running. snip them all. then no question of early retirement!!
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Old 04-07-2007, 11:37 AM
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lol

no sense warning him-he won't hear you with the cotton in his ears.

too many intact horses running. snip them all. then no question of early retirement!!
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:50 PM
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Actually yes it is. He is going in against two relatively good horses for this Derby year. Any Given Saturday (some think Pletchers best), and Summer Doldrums (training well; has has shown he can run). This is a better field than the Santa Anita. Jeez it seems like there is never a good field... Based on the comments I have read, the Blue Grass will be the only good field this year, and it has not been run yet. And then the fact that it is on poly will be bashed so that we will not have had any meaningful preps. It is amazing, bashing is so easy.
don't get too excited about the bluegrass....hard spun may not go, and now AGS is going to the big A...some of the luster is gone from the keeneland race. hopefully there won't be more defections.
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:06 PM
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don't get too excited about the bluegrass....hard spun may not go, and now AGS is going to the big A...some of the luster is gone from the keeneland race. hopefully there won't be more defections.
Actually defections might help make better races. Ravel not going in the Santa Anita gives us a 10 horse field. The Illinois Derby has a bunch going because Cobalt Blue is considered vulnerable. Maybe it is good having the 2nd level horses getting it on in large races rather than all the big guys running away from each other thinking their chances will be ruined and the horses forever scarred if they lose. The Arkansas may shape up to be a similar race with a lot of unknowns (or up and coming: Curlin) with a few making a break thru. I kinda like the large fields with decent horses that dont strike fear into the hearts of trainers.

The best horses this week are at the Big A. And the best race, as far as quality, has a small field. Lots of juggling and dodging may not be so bad.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:47 AM
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i agree, and b.t.wnobiz should win by no less than 3 lenghts...... go

2 / 1,6/ 1,6 tri.
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:55 AM
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Always one of my favorite handicapping angles - first time cotton balls.
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