Don Imus and Rutgers Women

[Cannon Shell]

I dont understand why people cant say what they want without someone being offended? All the 'outrage' just gives him more free publicity.

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont understand why people cant say what they want without someone being offended? All the 'outrage' just gives him more free publicity.

Totally agree, Billy Packer said a comment last week and a lot people
were offended by what he said. Packer said he wasn't going to apolgize.
Good for him. This is one of the few times I agree with Packer

http://www.outsports.com/cbb/20062007/packer0403.htm

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Totally agree, Billy Packer said a comment last week and a lot people
were offended by what he said. Packer said he wasn't going to apolgize.
Good for him. This is one of the few times I agree with Packer

http://www.outsports.com/cbb/20062007/packer0403.htm

I just cant understand why offending people is so bad ? I mean are there Native Americans that are truly hurt because of the Washington Redskins or Cleveland Indians or Altanta Braves? And if they are hurt shouldn't they just get over it and worry about more pressing matters? I can see where Tim Hardaway went a little too far but if he really hates gay people who cares?

[Cannon Shell]

And I am talking in a public sense not saying that it is ok to offend people personally

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And I am talking in a public sense not saying that it is ok to offend people personally

As was I "talking in a public sense".
I stated that "if I was a trainer..."---hypothetical (no name).
If anyone took personal offense and found the need to defend based on that,
perhaps his words speak louder than his actions, though to me, actions have always spoken louder than words.
Some might need to develop a thicker skin, whatever color one is born with.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Some might need to develop a thicker skin, whatever color one is born with.

Which would seem to support my original post, no?

Let me understand your stance. It is awful for a public figure to "offend" a particular group even though the 2 have no ties or contact but on a personal level people need to develop a thicker skin?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Which would seem to support my original post, no?

Let me understand your stance. It is awful for a public figure to "offend" a particular group even though the 2 have no ties or contact but on a personal level people need to develop a thicker skin?

Interesting question.
I'm not sure I can give a correct answer either way.
All I can say is my personal opinion, that being that one need not go out of their way to "offend" (nor defend). If it means having a thicker skin (despite its color) to tolerate racism, well, again...in my humble opinion, racism is not tolerable and needs to be spoken against.

Also, if you took anything I said as a personal attack on you, my sincere apologies. A good friend, who also worked for H Allen, and went to dinner with you both, told me of your ability as a horseman. Joey says "hi".

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I just cant understand why offending people is so bad ? I mean are there Native Americans that are truly hurt because of the Washington Redskins or Cleveland Indians or Altanta Braves? And if they are hurt shouldn't they just get over it and worry about more pressing matters? I can see where Tim Hardaway went a little too far but if he really hates gay people who cares?

There are people in this world who have nothing
better to do than become the political correct
police. Hey I'm Polish and I constantly hear Polish
jokes and people calling other people a stupid polak.
I just laugh because it doesn't offend me one bit.

My friend wrote this story in the local newspaper
http://www.mcall.com/all-hartcolumnf...otorracing-hed

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Totally agree, Billy Packer said a comment last week and a lot people
were offended by what he said. Packer said he wasn't going to apolgize.
Good for him. This is one of the few times I agree with Packer

http://www.outsports.com/cbb/20062007/packer0403.htm

Aw man, gotta love Billy "Allen Iverson is a 'tough monkey'" Packer.

I think he's a crazy old man who literally doesn't even get that his comments could be construed as out of line to some people.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Aw man, gotta love Billy "Allen Iverson is a 'tough monkey'" Packer.

I think he's a crazy old man who literally doesn't even get that his comments could be construed as out of line to some people.

Now, I'm sure that will offend old people...I could jump on the bandwagon with the "P.R.'s" in my area...but I won't.

But, what do I know? I just enjoy "stupid" things... (had to add that in! )

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Now, I'm sure that will offend old people...I could jump on the bandwagon with the "P.R.'s" in my area...but I won't.

But, what do I know? I just enjoy "stupid" things... (had to add that in! )

You're right, and I humbly apologize. I revise my original statement to say "He is a crazy 67-year old man."

And you don't like just stupid things -- you are here after all. Only wrestlemania qualifies, in my opinion -- but you very fairly evened the score shortly thereafter

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.scarletknights.com/basket...ail.asp?ID=368

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.scarletknights.com/basket...ail.asp?ID=368

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!



Why didn't he just say BOW-WOW UGLY!!?


I did kind of warm up to Myia...she's a cutie pie. .....but the rest!

Are they fed Kibbles n' Bits???





Thank you Mr. Shell.

Too kind.

[Byebyemermaid]

I listen to Imus everyday and he and his staff pick on everybody.I'm jewish and i laugh at the fun they make of jews.His producer Bernard does a routine as the cardinal where he announces the winning lotto numbers amongst other things and used to where a Fed-Ex letter package as a hat.I've yet to hear any Christian organization up in arms about it.Lets face it Al Shapton thrives on other peoples misery.That's the only time you hear from him.It's no different in the Sean Bell case.When all the evidence is produced it will be proven that those policemen acted wiuthin the guidelines.I'm still waiting for Sharpton to apologize about the Tawana Brawley case where a young girl made up a story that she was raped and had fecies put on her.It happened in Wappinger Falls NY.It ruined one guys life.Sharpton and his buddy Alton Maddox never apologized for what they did.The irony is that my sister in-laws parents were principals in schools in Brooklyn and Sharpton went there and was a troublemaker then already.Hey Al you happen to remember Yankel Rosenbaum who was killed in Brooklyn by Lemerick Nelson.

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I listen to Imus everyday and he and his staff pick on everybody.I'm jewish and i laugh at the fun they make of jews.His producer Bernard does a routine as the cardinal where he announces the winning lotto numbers amongst other things and used to where a Fed-Ex letter package as a hat.I've yet to hear any Christian organization up in arms about it.Lets face it Al Shapton thrives on other peoples misery.That's the only time you hear from him.It's no different in the Sean Bell case.When all the evidence is produced it will be proven that those policemen acted wiuthin the guidelines.I'm still waiting for Sharpton to apologize about the Tawana Brawley case where a young girl made up a story that she was raped and had fecies put on her.It happened in Wappinger Falls NY.It ruined one guys life.Sharpton and his buddy Alton Maddox never apologized for what they did.The irony is that my sister in-laws parents were principals in schools in Brooklyn and Sharpton went there and was a troublemaker then already.Hey Al you happen to remember Yankel Rosenbaum who was killed in Brooklyn by Lemerick Nelson.

This is interesting because Sharpton getting all mad at Imus made me think Imus might not be such a bad guy. I remember when that girl made up the story about being raped by the clan. Sharpton got all involved and it turned out to be a hoax and after Sharpton had criticized about everyone in the country he shut his mouth and never put up a retraction. Never apologized to the police and all the people he had punched in the press. He does thrive on hate.

Imus must still retract his hair statement with the mess he owns.

[timmgirvan]

Usually he has a cowboy hat on....not all 'poofy' like that shot!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

This is interesting because Sharpton getting all mad at Imus made me think Imus might not be such a bad guy. I remember when that girl made up the story about being raped by the clan. Sharpton got all involved and it turned out to be a hoax and after Sharpton had criticized about everyone in the country he shut his mouth and never put up a retraction. Never apologized to the police and all the people he had punched in the press. He does thrive on hate.

Imus must still retract his hair statement with the mess he owns.

You bring up Tawana Brawley, but what about Amadou Diallo? She is the Guinean immigrant young woman who was shot to death by the NYPD 8-10 years ago. Her family was awarded $5 Million by a court which decided her death was wrongful and was due to police racial-profiling and brutality.

Sharpton is what he is. But I think what he does is important whether or not I might like him. Frankly, during the '04 Democratic debates, he was the only candidate to give straight answers to many questions.

What's great about America is we get to decide how badly he suffers in the end. Whether it's Mel Gibson or that Seinfeld guy dissing Jews or Blacks or Imus, in the end it all shakes out on its own.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I listen to Imus everyday and he and his staff pick on everybody.I'm jewish and i laugh at the fun they make of jews.His producer Bernard does a routine as the cardinal where he announces the winning lotto numbers amongst other things and used to where a Fed-Ex letter package as a hat.I've yet to hear any Christian organization up in arms about it.Lets face it Al Shapton thrives on other peoples misery.That's the only time you hear from him.It's no different in the Sean Bell case.When all the evidence is produced it will be proven that those policemen acted wiuthin the guidelines.I'm still waiting for Sharpton to apologize about the Tawana Brawley case where a young girl made up a story that she was raped and had fecies put on her.It happened in Wappinger Falls NY.It ruined one guys life.Sharpton and his buddy Alton Maddox never apologized for what they did.The irony is that my sister in-laws parents were principals in schools in Brooklyn and Sharpton went there and was a troublemaker then already.Hey Al you happen to remember Yankel Rosenbaum who was killed in Brooklyn by Lemerick Nelson.

Now i remember the guys name in Wappinger Falls NY.It was Steve Pagonas whose life was ruined by the false accusations.Where was Sharpton when Lattrell Sprewell choked P. J. Carlessimo(a white person) not once but came back for more.He is nothing more than a leech or oppurtunist.Martin Luther King would consider him an embarassement.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

He is nothing more than a leech or oppurtunist.

Most all religious leaders are.There is $$ to be made off of peoples' fear,hope,and hate.Those are the 3 main reasons people are into religion.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

Now i remember the guys name in Wappinger Falls NY.It was Steve Pagonas whose life was ruined by the false accusations.Where was Sharpton when Lattrell Sprewell choked P. J. Carlessimo(a white person) not once but came back for more.He is nothing more than a leech or oppurtunist.Martin Luther King would consider him an embarassement.

Funny how people have forgotten that...Sharpton brings NOTHING to the table and really hurts the cause he's trying to better.