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Old 04-05-2007, 10:26 AM
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I hate to break up this Nobiz lovefest, but what exactly has he done on the track that makes you believe A) he has such incredible talent and that B) he is not just a headcase who ran away from a couple of bad fields and caught everyone's attention.

On paper he just doesn't compare to Any Given Saturday. Nobiz spun his wheels last time, playing around the whole way and came up short in a race where they weren't exactly flying home. Now Barclay Tagg, usually as traditional a horseman as they come is trying everything but the kitchen sink to straighten out this guy's myriad problems.

If I'm proven wrong then so be it, but as of right now Nobiz has not done anything on the track that leads me to believe he is faster than Any Given Saturday or a few others from this year's crop.

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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I hate to break up this Nobiz lovefest, but what exactly has he done on the track that makes you believe A) he has such incredible talent and that B) he is not just a headcase who ran away from a couple of bad fields and caught everyone's attention.

On paper he just doesn't compare to Any Given Saturday. Nobiz spun his wheels last time, playing around the whole way and came up short in a race where they weren't exactly flying home. Now Barclay Tagg, usually as traditional a horseman as they come is trying everything but the kitchen sink to straighten out this guy's myriad problems.

If I'm proven wrong then so be it, but as of right now Nobiz has not done anything on the track that leads me to believe he is faster than Any Given Saturday or a few others from this year's crop.

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:33 AM
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Honestly, I like AGS, but I want to see him run big off of the "fake" dirt. But I do like him. If he can take to the real dirt, I think he is a very nice horse.

I do like No Biz too. I believe he is going to be my pick in this race.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:52 AM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
LOLOLOL

I wonder if Tagg's gonna add the popsicle sticks or tongue depressors and surgical tape to keep all those cotton balls in place. Like my vet does when dogs have their ears trimmed.

No Biz'll have a hard time pinnin' those boys, if he gets into a stretch duel.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:40 AM
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LOLOLOL

I wonder if Tagg's gonna add the popsicle sticks or tongue depressors and surgical tape to keep all those cotton balls in place. Like my vet does when dogs have their ears trimmed.

No Biz'll have a hard time pinnin' those boys, if he gets into a stretch duel.
........ just break out the jack van berg gate dancer ear muffs......gate dancer looked AWESOME with those bad boys on.
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:38 PM
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I've loved this horse since the day he opened his little horsie eyes and said, "Hello world, I am No Biz!!"

I feel sorry for his competition. They're going to be so jealous that he has balls in his ears and they don't. What an outstanding, historic day it's going to be when he wins the Wood by over 20 lengths. Whoda thunk that all it took to get this magnificent horse in the winners circle is some comfy balls in the ears to drown out all of the negativity?
well ive got you beat there, i still remember the day albert the great climbed up on nightstorm and created noshow like bizshow.
i said to myself: "self, if they give that boy some cotton balls to stick in his ears, he is going to win himself the wood memorial someday."
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:15 PM
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Acutally the best thing to put in his ears for the noise is tampons. Tha way there is a string incase they get to far down in the ear.It works for my barrel horses that go crazy in indoor arenas. And alot of ropers use them for there horses at the National Finals. Try having a spooky horse at the NRF in Vegas. If it can work for them its gotta work for NoBiz. The NRF crowd is just about like the Derby crowd.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:18 PM
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Acutally the best thing to put in his ears for the noise is tampons. Tha way there is a string incase they get to far down in the ear.It works for my barrel horses that go crazy in indoor arenas. And alot of ropers use them for there horses at the National Finals. Try having a spooky horse at the NRF in Vegas. If it can work for them its gotta work for NoBiz. The NRF crowd is just about like the Derby crowd.
I did the same thing with my horse a few times...

Occasionally, the string hanging out can bother a horse with sensitive ears, though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:27 PM
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Any truth to the rumors I've been reading today that Tagg is planning on running Nobiz back in the Excelsior because "everyone knows that a 20 length blowout win does nothing for a horse's foundation?"
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:04 PM
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:06 PM
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I agree with NTamm. Nobiz is a very nice horse, and certainly still on a relatively short list of actual Derby contenders, but so far he has not lived up to the hype, and has yet to run a fast race. How long can we keep blaming his bad habits?

While obviously he can win Saturday, I do not feel he is as good as Any Given Saturday, and I also expect Summer Doldrums to put in a very good effort.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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I'm not saying Nobiz isn't a fine horse. But to say he will have a stretch dual with anyone on derby day is quite a stretch. After the cotton balls maybe they should try some glasses and a fake nose...the competition will never see him coming. He may very well win the Wood - but is that saying a lot looking at the field?
Actually yes it is. He is going in against two relatively good horses for this Derby year. Any Given Saturday (some think Pletchers best), and Summer Doldrums (training well; has has shown he can run). This is a better field than the Santa Anita. Jeez it seems like there is never a good field... Based on the comments I have read, the Blue Grass will be the only good field this year, and it has not been run yet. And then the fact that it is on poly will be bashed so that we will not have had any meaningful preps. It is amazing, bashing is so easy.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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well...if nobiz doesn't start picking those feet up, the cotton balls won't be the ones he'll be most concerned about!!!
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:50 PM
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Actually yes it is. He is going in against two relatively good horses for this Derby year. Any Given Saturday (some think Pletchers best), and Summer Doldrums (training well; has has shown he can run). This is a better field than the Santa Anita. Jeez it seems like there is never a good field... Based on the comments I have read, the Blue Grass will be the only good field this year, and it has not been run yet. And then the fact that it is on poly will be bashed so that we will not have had any meaningful preps. It is amazing, bashing is so easy.
don't get too excited about the bluegrass....hard spun may not go, and now AGS is going to the big A...some of the luster is gone from the keeneland race. hopefully there won't be more defections.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:10 PM
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AGS ran quite well at Churchill last year and Tampa this year. That's real dirt.
I don't like the tampa track. I know GPK does, but I don't. Not saying he isn't good, just I want more. I always do though.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:13 PM
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I don't like the tampa track. I know GPK does, but I don't. Not saying he isn't good, just I want more. I always do though.
Out of curiosity, Buffy... why don't you like the Tampa track?
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:27 PM
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First blinkers.

Then cotton balls.

Next news will be the horse will wear those funny plastic teeth.

No thanks at a short price.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:29 PM
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Out of curiosity, Buffy... why don't you like the Tampa track?
Seems that horses that run great there tend to only run "great" there. I don't know, just something stuck in my head I guess. He will show me on Saturday if I am wrong about the track.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:49 PM
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I really just am not sold on Nobiz. He is nice looking but he really hasn't run a fast race yet. In fact his maiden was faster than his last race. He might just not be the great horse people thought he would be. Not to knock Albert the Great, but he isn't exactly producing great horses.
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